Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Don't be too hard on Toney. I wrestled in high school and I and anyone else who has done wrestling will tell you that those low shots are VERY hard to stop for guys with wrestling experience, let alone a 42 year old boxer who hasn't trained any wrestling until recently.

Toney was clearly banking on Randy either going in for the clinch (which is what he usually does, as it is his specialty as a Greco-Roman wrestler) or shooting a mid-level takedown (the common shots you see in UFC). Randy threw a HUGE curveball to Toney because not only is that technique something he's NEVER EVER done in MMA, its a technique you VERY RARELY see.

And Toney did impress me on the ground, believe it or not. Go back and watch Art Jimmerson in the first UFC. Royce took the boxer down and Art was PETRIFIED. Toney looked relatively calm, he didn't turtle up or quit when he took some shots, and he was taking the right precautions to escape the side choke. He lasted a lot longer on the ground with a grappler than I thought he would, and surely a lot longer than Couture would standing with him.

Basically was his performance good for MMA standards? Not really. But was it good for a 42 year old fat blown up Middleweight boxer who has only been training for a few months? I think it was, considering his opposition.

Nah. Randy got straight to mount, and James never offered any resistance. Hips flat, didn't turn, didn't roll. Laid flat on his back. Randy isn't a submission artist, so no he did terrible all things considered.