Who's next for Wladimir?

[El Kabong]

You come across as really immature and pathetic only referring to Haye as Chicken Little fact is Haye is a titlist and good fighter why get so personally involved? Come on imagine a grown man acting that way. it's ok to have preferences but thats madness

Sorry you feel that way but that's how I will refer to him until he becomes another KO victim on Wlad's record....then he'll be worthy enough to have me call him by his name again. Right now, with the lack of balls he's shown, he and his fans are lucky Chicken Little is all I call him.

[Spicoli]

Watching this now 1st time. Wlad is not always fun but man...he is all tactician and a thinking boxer. You have top respect that. Yeh he's been dropped and ko'd..last I checked this was the hurt buisness.

edit. One think that annoys to the max is that pawing,extended shite he does though. Should be warned more for that NON jab when its left out

[El Kabong]

This is the first time I'm hearing the ESPN guys (BK and Atlas) do the blow by blow....man Teddy is one bitter S.O.B ...he's been drinking the Hater-ade. But the truth is Alexander Povetkin would be LUCKY to last half as long as Sam Peter did...no matter how good of shape he's in, no matter how much training and bullshit Teddy Atlas pulls with the refs Alexander Povetkin is just never going to compete vs Wlad.

Everyone has a plan until they get hit

[Spicoli]

This is the first time I'm hearing the ESPN guys (BK and Atlas) do the blow by blow....man Teddy is one bitter S.O.B ...he's been drinking the Hater-ade. But the truth is Alexander Povetkin would be LUCKY to last half as long as Sam Peter did...no matter how good of shape he's in, no matter how much training and bullshit Teddy Atlas pulls with the refs Alexander Povetkin is just never going to compete vs Wlad.

Everyone has a plan until they get hit

I dont know man...All I hear is him saying he's not ready and is too inexperienced. Pretty straight forward. But agree,dont see him even with 3,4 more fighte being able to threaten Wlad.

[0james0]

Out of interest, what are your views on what Haye has said around his fight with Vitali?

Is that simply being dismissed as all lies? (the fact they shook hands on an arrangment and then when the contract arrived it was different)

Just want to know what peoples thoughts are on it. I know money or anything shouldn't be an issue, we all agree Haye should be taking the fight anywhere, local park, anywhere. But he obviously has clauses he feels strongly about like 3 rematches. So if he's not lying, he does have a bit of a point.

I don't think the K's are completley innocent. The vids make me wonder even more.

[0james0]

Lyle- Whats your views on this?

Out of interest, what are your views on what Haye has said around his fight with Vitali?

Is that simply being dismissed as all lies? (the fact they shook hands on an arrangment and then when the contract arrived it was different)

Just want to know what peoples thoughts are on it. I know money or anything shouldn't be an issue, we all agree Haye should be taking the fight anywhere, local park, anywhere. But he obviously has clauses he feels strongly about like 3 rematches. So if he's not lying, he does have a bit of a point.

I don't think the K's are completley innocent. The vids make me wonder even more.

[CFH]

Out of interest, what are your views on what Haye has said around his fight with Vitali?

Is that simply being dismissed as all lies? (the fact they shook hands on an arrangment and then when the contract arrived it was different)

Just want to know what peoples thoughts are on it. I know money or anything shouldn't be an issue, we all agree Haye should be taking the fight anywhere, local park, anywhere. But he obviously has clauses he feels strongly about like 3 rematches. So if he's not lying, he does have a bit of a point.

I don't think the K's are completley innocent. The vids make me wonder even more.

I think Haye was justified in pulling out of the first fight and in turning down Vitali's offer. However, those moves did begin to cast doubt on how truthful he was being with his claims about cleaning up the HW division etc. and it is very hard to defend him turning down Klitscko's last offer in favor of a fight with Harrison.

[piye]

You come across as really immature and pathetic only referring to Haye as Chicken Little fact is Haye is a titlist and good fighter why get so personally involved? Come on imagine a grown man acting that way. it's ok to have preferences but thats madness

Sorry you feel that way but that's how I will refer to him until he becomes another KO victim on Wlad's record....then he'll be worthy enough to have me call him by his name again. Right now, with the lack of balls he's shown, he and his fans are lucky Chicken Little is all I call him.

Well it's nothing personal and you otherwise seem like an all right guy but the reality is These guys are athletes who fight for a living non of them are chickens; not one and i doubt they fear each other in reality it's all business. I find Wlad boring but he is a dominant champ who has earned respect; Haye is exciting but is pulling bitch moves and does not command respect at the mo is he a chicken?Hell no. Is he a bullshitter may be. but it's unfortunate tat you can talk sense then invalidate your logic with stupidity and name calling to your emotional involvement.

[ono]

Actually after last nights performance i think he deserves a night out with Ricky Hatton.

[El Kabong]

Well it's nothing personal and you otherwise seem like an all right guy but the reality is These guys are athletes who fight for a living non of them are chickens; not one and i doubt they fear each other in reality it's all business. I find Wlad boring but he is a dominant champ who has earned respect; Haye is exciting but is pulling bitch moves and does not command respect at the mo is he a chicken?Hell no. Is he a bullshitter may be. but it's unfortunate tat you can talk sense then invalidate your logic with stupidity and name calling to your emotional involvement.

So you doubt that boxers have in fact ducked difficult challenges because they know they cannot win?

[El Kabong]

This just in....Wladimir is going to fight again on December 11th that's a pretty quick turn around. The people he's looking at fighting: Tomaz Adamek, Odlanier Solis, Jean Marc Mormek, Denis Boytsov, David Tua....the names don't look all that great, he'd stop each of those guys without much trouble IMO.

[Hornfinger]

This just in....Wladimir is going to fight again on December 11th that's a pretty quick turn around. The people he's looking at fighting: Tomaz Adamek, Odlanier Solis, Jean Marc Mormek, Denis Boytsov, David Tua....the names don't look all that great, he'd stop each of those guys without much trouble IMO.

Is that a fucking joke? Apart from Adamek those are all bums. And a guy who david haye Ko'ed. audley harrison wouldn't look out of place on that list. Lyle why aren't you going mad about this?

[erics44]

the haye hate is jealousy more than anything

i read in another thread el kabong saying hayes power isnt proven at heavyweight

[El Kabong]

Is that a fucking joke? Apart from Adamek those are all bums. And a guy who david haye Ko'ed. audley harrison wouldn't look out of place on that list. Lyle why aren't you going mad about this?

No it was reported on boxingscene.com, Solis is no bum he might not be in the best shape but he finished "The Great" Monte Barrett in 2 rounds . I'm not mad because it's all about money HF...I mean he's got to get his bills right? Wlad has to get his money before he has this big money fight with Chicken Little because who knows what will happen after that? Wlad has no pension or retirement that boxing is going to give him...so he has to make his money.

Don't get your panties in a wad HF, #1 Chicken Little is fighting Audley soon and after that fight he probably won't fight again until this time next year #2 Wlad is THE Champion and he wants to defend his titles sooner rather than later and this being an OPTIONAL DEFENSE as a boxing fan, I'm all for the guy fighting as often as possible. Joe Louis had his bum of the month club when no one posed a threat to him, now Wlad is doing a similar thing as a boxing fan I figure that would be a good thing. He's not ducking anyone, not avoiding anyone, he just wants to fight...he's the EPITOME of a Professional. Wlad was ready for Chicken Little, Wlad was ready for Povetkin and those guys ran from him....what do you want him to do wait? That won't help the division.

Will a defense vs any of those people named mean much? Nope not at all....but if Wlad wants to fight them then it's fine by me just so long as it's not taking away chances for him to defend vs one of the guys that ran from him to begin with.

the haye hate is jealousy more than anything

i read in another thread el kabong saying hayes power isnt proven at heavyweight

Right...how many guys has he stopped at heavyweight that have never been stopped before? How many PRIME heavyweights has he fought? (maybe 1 if you consider Valuev in his prime) How many Top 10 PRIME heavyweights has he fought? (maybe 1 if you consider Valuev #1 Top 10 and #2 In his prime). Consider the fact that Chicken Little shouldn't even have the belt because it was needlessly stripped from Ruslan Chagaev....whom Wlad fought and beat on short notice.

I like how the Chicken Little fans can complain about Wlad fighting Sam Peter but never grasp that the only reason that rematch happened is because 2 heavyweight boxers ducked Wlad and so Wlad was left with no other option.

[ono]

So if you understand that Wlad wants to make some dough fighting a bum before he fights Haye, why don't you accept that Haye is doing the same thing?