Who's next for Wladimir?

[Hornfinger]

HF are you dense? #1 The whole "money fight" thing was sarcasm #2 Wlad fighting in December has 0 effect on a fight vs Chicken Little.

Unlike Chicken Little Wlad hasn't run off at the mouth to anyone he isn't willing to fight.

I don't care your still a hypocrit. Wlad is boxing shite opponants, but your fine with that cuz it's wlad and you have your nose up his arse.

[Gandalf]

HF are you dense? #1 The whole "money fight" thing was sarcasm #2 Wlad fighting in December has 0 effect on a fight vs Chicken Little.

Unlike Chicken Little Wlad hasn't run off at the mouth to anyone he isn't willing to fight.

I don't care your still a hypocrit. Wlad is boxing shite opponants, but your fine with that cuz it's wlad and you have your nose up his arse.

You are an absolute moron. One of the biggest I have seen.

Wlad fights shit opponents? Look at the resume, clown. Now compare it with Haye.

[El Kabong]

3! What are you smoking?!? A guy that cautiously boxed Nicolay Valuev would steamroll Sam Peter?!?! Wow... Just wow.

[Mark TKO]

3! What are you smoking?!? A guy that cautiously boxed Nicolay Valuev would steamroll Sam Peter?!?! Wow... Just wow.

that would have been my bet yes, Haye in 3 - I don't smoke, it's bad for you

If I got in the ring with Ronnie Corbett and he went for me gung ho style I would say "Ronnie are you fucking mental ??" Then twat him big time.

So of course Haye fought Valuev cautiously, he's fucking massive ! - as he would have to do Klits too

[0james0]

Maybe not inside 3, but I have no doubt the result vs Haye would have been the same.

I'd seriously doubt Peter vs even Audley.

Anyone who could survive that first round can beat Peter. He was woeful.

[El Kabong]

Sam may well be shot now but keep in mind, just because Wlad makes someone look bad doesn't mean its easy to beat them.

[Master]

Sam may well be shot now but keep in mind, just because Wlad makes someone look bad doesn't mean its easy to beat them.

You are right, Haye would not have Koed Peter that early, you cannot criticise Wlad for beating what is out there. At least he is taking the best available fighters out there and not Audley Harrison.

[generalbulldog]

Sam may well be shot now but keep in mind, just because Wlad makes someone look bad doesn't mean its easy to beat them.

You are right, Haye would not have Koed Peter that early, you cannot criticise Wlad for beating what is out there. At least he is taking the best available fighters out there and not Audley Harrison.

Haye probably wouldn't even step into the ring with Peter.

[0james0]

Sam may well be shot now but keep in mind, just because Wlad makes someone look bad doesn't mean its easy to beat them.

I'm taking nothing away from Wlad, he got the job done efficiently and never really looked in any difficulty.

Ita just a shame that Peter couldn't really do his game plan for longer than 90 seconds. You could see how he wanted to fight when he started, loads of head movement, throwing big shots, ducking and weaving around the ring. After that he just plodded forward taking punches.

It's a shame as he did look decent coming up to the fight, but he clearly wasn't. Even the Wlad fans must be disapointed it wasn't more of a challenge.

I have no problem with 10th round KO's, to me it doesn't mean you are any worse than someone who blows them away in 3 rounds, the late KO's generally come from the more experienced pros who have learnt not to throw it all on the line to get an opponent out early.

I just think that both Haye and the K's are milking this a bit and neither is an inocent part in all this.

[El Kabong]

Listen, Chicken Little might win a UD vs Sam Peter MAYBE if he turned the gas way up on him he could make Sam quit but I HIGHLY doubt he'd stop him....why? Because this is the first time it's been done and it took 9 1/2 rounds of big bombs to do it....but I guess if you're allowed (as Chicken Little is [and if you don't believe me just watch the Ruiz fight]) to land repeatedly to the back of the head with no warning, then maybe he'd stop him.....eventually.

Saying Sam Peter wouldn't beat Audley is just childish...Audley couldn't even beat a top 10 British Heavyweight much less a top 10 WORLD class heavyweight. Sam Peter is exactly that, he is world class, yes he flailed around quite a bit and it looked like he lacked any talent....but being a slugger that's part of the game, how many times did you see Joe Frazier wildly swing and miss? How about George Foreman? Earnie Shavers? Ron Lyle? Gerry Cooney? Tommy Morrison? Razor Ruddock? Guys who hit hard and are just being out classed can look silly....it doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

Eventually Chicken Little will be forced to step up the class of his opponents: Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison.....that just doesn't cut it. Why no Arreola? Why no Povetkin? Why no Dimitrenko? Dimitrenko would be an EASY fight for Chicken Little! It would prepare him for the height, reach, and size of a Klitschko with 0 danger!!! Dimitrenko is easy to hit, he has fast hands but doesn't hit hard, he's only been beaten once (by Eddie Chambers a top fighter) and I do honestly think he would be the first fighter to stop Dimitrenko. Harrison is preparing him for the size of a Klitschko, but Audley's not fresh, he may punch a bit harder than Dimitrenko and hell Audley has been violently KO'd before....and shit Audley couldn't even beat Dominick Guinn! I would be impressed if Chicken Little KO'd Guinn, he's never been stopped either...doesn't mean he's good or anything, but it would allow me to accurately judge his power.

[0james0]

MIGHT KO Peter, IF blah, blah, blah.......

I genuinely think any heavyweight with some stamina would have beat Peter and said heavyweight with any power would get that KO late on.

Klitchko gets lots of plaudits for his jab etc, but the fact he is very well conditioned and fit has been one of his biggest assets in recent years where fighters skills have diminished and the crop of one hit wonders have come through. Their styles generally mean poor fitness and the fact they are struggling for breath a few rounds in makes them easier foe.

Haye would have without doubt KO'd Peter, no maybes about it. Certainly no maybes about if Haye would have beaten him. Peter was poor and unfit, yes he'll always be dangerous because he can punch, but that could be said about 100 heavies, dare I say it, including Audley Harrison.

I'm not faulting Wlad at all, but at least try and be objective when you post or else it's too tainted with fanboyism to be taken seriously. Wlad had another fight and good on him, he did well. He's active and winning without troubles. I'm all fir him keeping that up and knocking out anyone who thinks they are a contender.

When was the last time Wlad fought someone with speed? (genuine question as I don't actually know)

I think Hayes elusivenes still causes him problems. Haye us fast for a heavyweight and very fit.

[El Kabong]

MIGHT KO Peter, IF blah, blah, blah.......

I genuinely think any heavyweight with some stamina would have beat Peter and said heavyweight with any power would get that KO late on.

Klitchko gets lots of plaudits for his jab etc, but the fact he is very well conditioned and fit has been one of his biggest assets in recent years where fighters skills have diminished and the crop of one hit wonders have come through. Their styles generally mean poor fitness and the fact they are struggling for breath a few rounds in makes them easier foe.

Haye would have without doubt KO'd Peter, no maybes about it. Certainly no maybes about if Haye would have beaten him. Peter was poor and unfit, yes he'll always be dangerous because he can punch, but that could be said about 100 heavies, dare I say it, including Audley Harrison.

I'm not faulting Wlad at all, but at least try and be objective when you post or else it's too tainted with fanboyism to be taken seriously. Wlad had another fight and good on him, he did well. He's active and winning without troubles. I'm all fir him keeping that up and knocking out anyone who thinks they are a contender.

When was the last time Wlad fought someone with speed? (genuine question as I don't actually know)

I think Hayes elusivenes still causes him problems. Haye us fast for a heavyweight and very fit.

The bolded parts are just downright wrong...Sam Peter was in great shape coming in to the fight, he was just right in terms of weight and he obviously had stamina or else he wouldn't have lasted 10 (well...9 and 1/2 ). Sam Peter is a good fighter, I hope he's ok from the fight vs Wlad, he might not ever be the same fighter as he once was but IMO he's still pretty damn good and he's obviously extremely hard to stop.

I think there are a lot of people that are very quick to judge the WBA title holder's power based on a couple of fights and honestly I think it's very easy (using those fights) to confuse "average" power for "great" power...I am not certain just what kind of power the guy has, because #1 It truly is hard to judge off of 4 heavyweight fights #2 The heavyweights he has fought and KO'd had already been stopped before so he's not showing us anything new (which makes me question his power).

Wlad stops guys that haven't been stopped before, he's done a bunch of it recently: Thompson, Chagaev, Chambers, Brewster, Brock, etc. That and his 58 fight resume with 49 KO's tell you "This guy must hit pretty freaking hard". It's kind of hard to expect me to see 4 fights at heavyweight 3 KO's and have the 3 KO's be guys who have previously been stopped (sometimes by not that great of punchers) and say "This guy is one hell of a power puncher"...even Evander Holyfield had to earn his stripes at heavyweight when it came time to question his punching power.

Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd had very good hand speed, they didn't have great power, but they had very good hand speed. I might also add that both were very elusive....and that both had very good chins but got stopped anyway.

[CFH]

Sam may well be shot now but keep in mind, just because Wlad makes someone look bad doesn't mean its easy to beat them.

No, but when "Fat" Eddie Chambers beats someone it probably means they aren't championship material.

[amat]

Guys much worse then Eddie Chambers have won heavyweight titles in recent years. Chambers has one of the better skillsets in the division but absolutely no size to match.

Anyways, there are only 4 people I would even be mildly interested in seeing face Wlad.

Povetkin
Solis
Haye
Vitali

Obviously he's not fighting Vitali. Povetkin is to slow and small probably. Solis would be interesting but he's a pretty big unknown at this point. And Haye I think we know who he is. He miiight have some speed to trouble Wlad but I doubt it.

[El Kabong]

No, but when "Fat" Eddie Chambers beats someone it probably means they aren't championship material.

Oh really? Because Eddie was just a simple 3-4 punch combination away from adding Alexander Povetkin to that list.

Eddie is small, he should be a cruiserweight...but he's deceptively quick, he has very good 1 punch power for his size, and he has excellent defense. Eddie is a good fighter, he'd be tough for anyone to beat.