Tomasz Adamek, is he really a big deal as a heavyweight, really??

[El Kabong]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

[rjj tszyu]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

[armin]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

I very much doubt that. It's not as if haye has been blasting opponents out within a round at heavyweight! Adamek is sturdy took shots from arreola fine for the most part. Given that tho even tho haye MIGHT stop adamek quicker, adamek would also have a decent shot at beating haye, and pretty much almost no chance against either klit.

[Spicoli]

One things for certain. He fights more often and harder then he talks. I think his added size is fine as with rare exception...Klits and Lewis far too much is made of 'super' hvys. Its his stiff mobility and actual willingness to engage that see a short shelf life. I think he beats a Thompson and even say he out works a lack luster and fatty Solis if I had to pick today. He attracts because he fights all comers and doesn't whine or politic his way out.

[rjj tszyu]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

I very much doubt that. It's not as if haye has been blasting opponents out within a round at heavyweight! Adamek is sturdy took shots from arreola fine for the most part. Given that tho even tho haye MIGHT stop adamek quicker, adamek would also have a decent shot at beating haye, and pretty much almost no chance against either klit.

I think it's a good prediction to say Haye KO's Adamek quicker than either Klit. He goes out there and goes for the KO, look at the first shot he landed on Ruiz, I don't see many HW's getting up from that. I'm not trying to make Ruiz out to be great but to dismiss him as not being a resilient bugger with not much punch resistance would be unfair and Haye just floored him like he was a chinny bum. There is no way either Klit would have done that so early and if Haye had stepped back and picked Ruiz off he would have got the early KO in that fight whereas lets face it a Ruiz-Klit fight would be more of a wrestling match that probably went the distance.

I'm not saying that Haye's ability to get someone out quicker than the Klits makes him better than the Klits although I do think he has a great chance of beating them. We all know Wlad doesn't handle speed and power well, and last time he fought someone with both them qualities he was KO'd and Haye has more power and speed than Sanders IMO and his footwork and elusiveness is better too. As for Vitali to be totally honest I don't think Haye would have much chance in his prime but now I think he would cause Vitali hell. He has shown recently he is definitely on the slide and for me it is the perfect time for Haye to make a move on him before fighting Wlad!

[therealremi]

No, Adamek is not a big deal at heavyweight. But he is not much less prospective than Chicken Little, who has far less fights on his resume and generates 20x more hype. And how Arreola and Grant are worse than Ruiz and Valuev? I would say even Jason Estrada in his fight against Adamek was better than those two.
Regarding Chad Dawson, no matter how talented, this guy WAS a cancer to boxing. He couldn't be more gay in his fight with Adamek. Anyway, I wouldn't draw to much conclusions about Adamek from this fight - Chad Dawson offered to fight both Chicken and Adamek in heavy so I would wait for that.

There's one thing we should consider before judging Adamek at heavyweight: he came to heavy cause he couldn't earn decent money fighting contenders in cruiser. It's kind of sad but at least he takes what's offered to him, instead of trash talking and ducking (yes, you can do them both at the same time!) for years.
Now it's kind of ironic cause it seems that Klits need Adamek more than he needs them: he has plenty of fans among Poles in New Jersey and it looks like more fans would come for Adamek than for Wlad or Vitali. Probably that's the reason Adamek is a hot topic now.

[skel1983]

No, Adamek is not a big deal at heavyweight. But he is not much less prospective than Chicken Little, who has far less fights on his resume and generates 20x more hype. And how Arreola and Grant are worse than Ruiz and Valuev? I would say even Jason Estrada in his fight against Adamek was better than those two.
Regarding Chad Dawson, no matter how talented, this guy WAS a cancer to boxing. He couldn't be more gay in his fight with Adamek. Anyway, I wouldn't draw to much conclusions about Adamek from this fight - Chad Dawson offered to fight both Chicken and Adamek in heavy so I would wait for that.

There's one thing we should consider before judging Adamek at heavyweight: he came to heavy cause he couldn't earn decent money fighting contenders in cruiser. It's kind of sad but at least he takes what's offered to him, instead of trash talking and ducking (yes, you can do them both at the same time!) for years.
Now it's kind of ironic cause it seems that Klits need Adamek more than he needs them: he has plenty of fans among Poles in New Jersey and it looks like more fans would come for Adamek than for Wlad or Vitali. Probably that's the reason Adamek is a hot topic now.

Lyle is that you me old mucker.

[rjj tszyu]

No, Adamek is not a big deal at heavyweight. But he is not much less prospective than Chicken Little, who has far less fights on his resume and generates 20x more hype. And how Arreola and Grant are worse than Ruiz and Valuev? I would say even Jason Estrada in his fight against Adamek was better than those two.
Regarding Chad Dawson, no matter how talented, this guy WAS a cancer to boxing. He couldn't be more gay in his fight with Adamek. Anyway, I wouldn't draw to much conclusions about Adamek from this fight - Chad Dawson offered to fight both Chicken and Adamek in heavy so I would wait for that.

There's one thing we should consider before judging Adamek at heavyweight: he came to heavy cause he couldn't earn decent money fighting contenders in cruiser. It's kind of sad but at least he takes what's offered to him, instead of trash talking and ducking (yes, you can do them both at the same time!) for years.
Now it's kind of ironic cause it seems that Klits need Adamek more than he needs them: he has plenty of fans among Poles in New Jersey and it looks like more fans would come for Adamek than for Wlad or Vitali. Probably that's the reason Adamek is a hot topic now.

Lyle is that you me old mucker.

Might be. Either that or Lyle is getting himself a bit of a following

[El Kabong]

Lyle is that you me old mucker.

No, it's not me, the nickname Chicken Little has just all of a sudden become a popular way to refer to the WBA Heavyweight title holder.

rjjtszyu....are you scared?

[ono]

Great post Bilbs. He stands out because he's not fat and shit, but talent wise he's fairly average, and he's fairly exciting. He's not that big so he could come a cropper against any Heavyweight.

I think he has a good chance against anyone other than Wlad, Vitali and Haye. A lot of the others could knock him out, but he would be competitive.

[TitoFan]

There is an old saying in Spanish... I don't know how well it translates into English, but I guess it goes something like this:

"In the land of blind men, the one-eyed man is king.

[CutMeMick]

Been of a fan of Tomasz since his battles with Briggs...

Vitaly & Haye due to their style I think beat Tomasz. However out of the 2 I think with Haye he's got a better shot at shocking him.

From there I think he's got a really good chance at beating Wladdy. Here's why, I think Wlad will be very catious and I think Adamek will be able to get inside and land shots.
A very hard fought but I think Adamek can pull it off.

From there I think Adamek can beat the likes of Povetkin, Chagaev, Thompson, Valuev, Dimitrenko. I just don't see anything that those guys have that can beat Adamek.

[WelshDevilRob]

I think the division has a few tiers.

The two brothers are obviously top of the pile.

Then the next group is Haye, Adamek and Povetkin.

Then below them are Chambers, Solis, Boytsov, Arreola, Austin, Gomez etc
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The topic question options are misleading/incorrect. Could Adamek become a contender? That's already been answered. The division is not the strength of the 70's/ 80's or 90's and it doesn't take much to become a contender.
Adamek is already a Top 5 Heavyweight by most rankings.

[armin]

accidental double post

[armin]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

I very much doubt that. It's not as if haye has been blasting opponents out within a round at heavyweight! Adamek is sturdy took shots from arreola fine for the most part. Given that tho even tho haye MIGHT stop adamek quicker, adamek would also have a decent shot at beating haye, and pretty much almost no chance against either klit.

I think it's a good prediction to say Haye KO's Adamek quicker than either Klit. He goes out there and goes for the KO, look at the first shot he landed on Ruiz, I don't see many HW's getting up from that. I'm not trying to make Ruiz out to be great but to dismiss him as not being a resilient bugger with not much punch resistance would be unfair and Haye just floored him like he was a chinny bum. There is no way either Klit would have done that so early and if Haye had stepped back and picked Ruiz off he would have got the early KO in that fight whereas lets face it a Ruiz-Klit fight would be more of a wrestling match that probably went the distance.

I'm not saying that Haye's ability to get someone out quicker than the Klits makes him better than the Klits although I do think he has a great chance of beating them. We all know Wlad doesn't handle speed and power well, and last time he fought someone with both them qualities he was KO'd and Haye has more power and speed than Sanders IMO and his footwork and elusiveness is better too. As for Vitali to be totally honest I don't think Haye would have much chance in his prime but now I think he would cause Vitali hell. He has shown recently he is definitely on the slide and for me it is the perfect time for Haye to make a move on him before fighting Wlad!

I highly doubt ruiz would go the distance with wlad. Ruiz doesnt really have anything to trouble wlad with. Wlad I think would have him out right about where haye had him out after softening him up with the jab. I would venture to say round 6 or 7 if he decided to lay it on him there. I'm not saying haye is a soft puncher but I think his power is being a little over rated at heavy, ruiz had been knocked out before, and well barrett was stopped a few times previously as well...

Anyways I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into another klit haye thread, we got plenty of those. I'm surprised cutmemick thinks adamek could take wlad, which I think is the first person to think so on here, it's boxing tho. It's a fight I almost don't want to see coming off because I think it's a fight that I think could ruin adamek. You know he's not getting stoped on his chair , if he's going out he's going out...