Haye-Ruiz hitting behind the head?

[El Kabong]

Yes boxing is a rough sport, but rabbit punches are illegal for a reason.

[0james0]

I didn't see anything wrong, although I did have my Union Jack specs on again and they have a habit of obscuring selective parts of fights.


It's the refs job to stop it, not the fighters.

[bcollins]

I didn't see anything wrong, although I did have my Union Jack specs on again and they have a habit of obscuring selective parts of fights.


It's the refs job to stop it, not the fighters.

I only partially agree with that. It is the ref's job to stop it, but it's also the fighter's jobs to contest within the rules of the sport. Now we all know that rarely happens, but shots to the back of the head are illegal for a reason! Knowingly punching to the back of the head in a continuous fashion is tantamount to loading up your gloves before the fight. It is an intentional attempt to cause harm outside of that allowed by the rules of the sport.

[erics44]

Yes boxing is a rough sport, but rabbit punches are illegal for a reason.

do you think he should have been shot?

[El Kabong]

Yes boxing is a rough sport, but rabbit punches are illegal for a reason.

do you think he should have been shot?

No, but he should have been given a hard warning and if he repeated the act points would be deducted and eventually he would face disqualification. But whatever, it doesn't matter now.

[Taeth]

I wasn't even bringing this up to criticize Haye in particular as much as home town reffing or the considered favorite benefitting from ridiculous situations. It's like I've heard from plenty of people that Roy Jones never was weighing in at 154 early in his career, but that they had rigged weigh-in scales early on in his career with numerous opponents saying they weighed 154 on the dot only to weigh-in at 148.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

148!?!

Who? The opponent, or Roy himself?

[El Kabong]

148!?!

Who? The opponent, or Roy himself?

I would imagine he means the opponent.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

''plenty of people that Roy Jones never was weighing in at 154 early in his career''

So what does that mean? He was weighing less, more?

Sorry, I just really wanna know

[El Kabong]

It would mean that RJJ was heavy and his opponents were spot on 154 but the scale showed them as lighter.

I checked Boxrec and saw nothing to support those allegations though

[rjj tszyu]

It would mean that RJJ was heavy and his opponents were spot on 154 but the scale showed them as lighter.

I checked Boxrec and saw nothing to support those allegations though

I doubt it's true. Roys early opponents weren't very good to be honest. In fact I have all his fights on DVD and most of his early ones are shot through camcorders and never even made TV. Also Roy liked to take challenges on and fight bigger opponents than himself. To me he was quite small for a LHW so to move up to HW and fight someone who is way bigger naturally is not the act of someone who would partake in these allegations.

[Beanflicker]

Agreed 100%. Whats even more sickening is the British announce team from the video I watched of it, saying that John was making it up.

[rjj tszyu]

Agreed 100%. Whats even more sickening is the British announce team from the video I watched of it, saying that John was making it up.

Haye admits he was getting cheap shots in due to the occasion getting the better of him, BUT, Ruiz did turn his back on Haye a few times and whats the last thing the ref tells you??

[El Kabong]

Haye admits he was getting cheap shots in due to the occasion getting the better of him, BUT, Ruiz did turn his back on Haye a few times and whats the last thing the ref tells you??

...someone turning their head trying to roll with the punches but not doing it properly (eg Peter-Wlad I ) isn't a "foul" per say, but the ref should have addressed it warn both sides about what their doing. Also turning your head isn't an invite for your opponent to wail on the back of your head.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

[QUOTE=El Kabong;904589]

Also turning your head isn't an invite for your opponent to wail on the back of your head.

Yeah but I'm of the opinion that if someone does that, then they are illegally avoiding the punch jusy as much as the guy who is illegally throwing the punch. So either way, to me it's like an inevitable occurrence.

Basically what I mean is, If the guy is gonna turn his back, he's likely to get hit on the back of the head.