Tomasz Adamek, is he really a big deal as a heavyweight, really??

[rjj tszyu]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

[armin]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

I very much doubt that. It's not as if haye has been blasting opponents out within a round at heavyweight! Adamek is sturdy took shots from arreola fine for the most part. Given that tho even tho haye MIGHT stop adamek quicker, adamek would also have a decent shot at beating haye, and pretty much almost no chance against either klit.

[Spicoli]

One things for certain. He fights more often and harder then he talks. I think his added size is fine as with rare exception...Klits and Lewis far too much is made of 'super' hvys. Its his stiff mobility and actual willingness to engage that see a short shelf life. I think he beats a Thompson and even say he out works a lack luster and fatty Solis if I had to pick today. He attracts because he fights all comers and doesn't whine or politic his way out.

[rjj tszyu]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

I very much doubt that. It's not as if haye has been blasting opponents out within a round at heavyweight! Adamek is sturdy took shots from arreola fine for the most part. Given that tho even tho haye MIGHT stop adamek quicker, adamek would also have a decent shot at beating haye, and pretty much almost no chance against either klit.

I think it's a good prediction to say Haye KO's Adamek quicker than either Klit. He goes out there and goes for the KO, look at the first shot he landed on Ruiz, I don't see many HW's getting up from that. I'm not trying to make Ruiz out to be great but to dismiss him as not being a resilient bugger with not much punch resistance would be unfair and Haye just floored him like he was a chinny bum. There is no way either Klit would have done that so early and if Haye had stepped back and picked Ruiz off he would have got the early KO in that fight whereas lets face it a Ruiz-Klit fight would be more of a wrestling match that probably went the distance.

I'm not saying that Haye's ability to get someone out quicker than the Klits makes him better than the Klits although I do think he has a great chance of beating them. We all know Wlad doesn't handle speed and power well, and last time he fought someone with both them qualities he was KO'd and Haye has more power and speed than Sanders IMO and his footwork and elusiveness is better too. As for Vitali to be totally honest I don't think Haye would have much chance in his prime but now I think he would cause Vitali hell. He has shown recently he is definitely on the slide and for me it is the perfect time for Haye to make a move on him before fighting Wlad!

[therealremi]

No, Adamek is not a big deal at heavyweight. But he is not much less prospective than Chicken Little, who has far less fights on his resume and generates 20x more hype. And how Arreola and Grant are worse than Ruiz and Valuev? I would say even Jason Estrada in his fight against Adamek was better than those two.
Regarding Chad Dawson, no matter how talented, this guy WAS a cancer to boxing. He couldn't be more gay in his fight with Adamek. Anyway, I wouldn't draw to much conclusions about Adamek from this fight - Chad Dawson offered to fight both Chicken and Adamek in heavy so I would wait for that.

There's one thing we should consider before judging Adamek at heavyweight: he came to heavy cause he couldn't earn decent money fighting contenders in cruiser. It's kind of sad but at least he takes what's offered to him, instead of trash talking and ducking (yes, you can do them both at the same time!) for years.
Now it's kind of ironic cause it seems that Klits need Adamek more than he needs them: he has plenty of fans among Poles in New Jersey and it looks like more fans would come for Adamek than for Wlad or Vitali. Probably that's the reason Adamek is a hot topic now.

[skel1983]

No, Adamek is not a big deal at heavyweight. But he is not much less prospective than Chicken Little, who has far less fights on his resume and generates 20x more hype. And how Arreola and Grant are worse than Ruiz and Valuev? I would say even Jason Estrada in his fight against Adamek was better than those two.
Regarding Chad Dawson, no matter how talented, this guy WAS a cancer to boxing. He couldn't be more gay in his fight with Adamek. Anyway, I wouldn't draw to much conclusions about Adamek from this fight - Chad Dawson offered to fight both Chicken and Adamek in heavy so I would wait for that.

There's one thing we should consider before judging Adamek at heavyweight: he came to heavy cause he couldn't earn decent money fighting contenders in cruiser. It's kind of sad but at least he takes what's offered to him, instead of trash talking and ducking (yes, you can do them both at the same time!) for years.
Now it's kind of ironic cause it seems that Klits need Adamek more than he needs them: he has plenty of fans among Poles in New Jersey and it looks like more fans would come for Adamek than for Wlad or Vitali. Probably that's the reason Adamek is a hot topic now.

Lyle is that you me old mucker.

[rjj tszyu]

No, Adamek is not a big deal at heavyweight. But he is not much less prospective than Chicken Little, who has far less fights on his resume and generates 20x more hype. And how Arreola and Grant are worse than Ruiz and Valuev? I would say even Jason Estrada in his fight against Adamek was better than those two.
Regarding Chad Dawson, no matter how talented, this guy WAS a cancer to boxing. He couldn't be more gay in his fight with Adamek. Anyway, I wouldn't draw to much conclusions about Adamek from this fight - Chad Dawson offered to fight both Chicken and Adamek in heavy so I would wait for that.

There's one thing we should consider before judging Adamek at heavyweight: he came to heavy cause he couldn't earn decent money fighting contenders in cruiser. It's kind of sad but at least he takes what's offered to him, instead of trash talking and ducking (yes, you can do them both at the same time!) for years.
Now it's kind of ironic cause it seems that Klits need Adamek more than he needs them: he has plenty of fans among Poles in New Jersey and it looks like more fans would come for Adamek than for Wlad or Vitali. Probably that's the reason Adamek is a hot topic now.

Lyle is that you me old mucker.

Might be. Either that or Lyle is getting himself a bit of a following

[El Kabong]

Lyle is that you me old mucker.

No, it's not me, the nickname Chicken Little has just all of a sudden become a popular way to refer to the WBA Heavyweight title holder.

rjjtszyu....are you scared?

[ono]

Great post Bilbs. He stands out because he's not fat and shit, but talent wise he's fairly average, and he's fairly exciting. He's not that big so he could come a cropper against any Heavyweight.

I think he has a good chance against anyone other than Wlad, Vitali and Haye. A lot of the others could knock him out, but he would be competitive.

[ICB]

Great post Bilbs. He stands out because he's not fat and shit, but talent wise he's fairly average, and he's fairly exciting. He's not that big so he could come a cropper against any Heavyweight.

I think he has a good chance against anyone other than Wlad, Vitali and Haye. A lot of the others could knock him out, but he would be competitive.

To be honest though who is really sold on Tomasz Adamek as a Heavyweight ? pretty much everyone thinks he will destroyed by either Klitschko, i just think he's a very likeable fighter. So many people get behind him and root for him.

To me what i think is ridiculous in Bilbo's post, is that he said Tomasz Adamek didn't beat anyone at Cruiserweight. But yet Steve Cunningham is the best Cruiserweight currently, and was the best Cruiserweight Tomasz Adamek could have fought. So how does that even make sense ?

So really how is it a great post ? Infact i think Bilbo's just a hater, and has pretty much took credit away. From Tomasz Adamek best wins. And has made ridiculous comparison about how Paul Williams moving up to fight Keith Holmes or William Joppy, is in the same park as moving to fight Michael Grant who had ridiculous physical advantages.

[TitoFan]

There is an old saying in Spanish... I don't know how well it translates into English, but I guess it goes something like this:

"In the land of blind men, the one-eyed man is king.

[Nameless]

No chances at all against the K but I see many reasons why he could beat Haye, stamina and an iron chin being two very good thing to consider and if Barrett can knock Haye down, Hell Adamek can. Beside, he has a good chance against most of the HW in my opinion, not saying he would beat them all but he has his fair chance against most of them. HE will never get down in history as a super HW but as a good one with exciting fights to see and not only once per year, that should be enough to earn some respect. Beside, I am absolutely convinced that Haye will never fight him and will do everything he can to avoid him and to fight meaningless challenger

[therealremi]

The funny thing is how AFTER Adamek had beaten them, fighters like O'Neil Bell, Cunningham, Banks or Arreola have become "on self destruct" or "nothing exceptional". I remember people saying other things before the fights. I remember how Banks once seemed "very dangerous" to everyone, even after first rounds of the fight. I'm sure Adamek could have stopped the careers of other boxers as well, but as others have said: who did he duck?

[CutMeMick]

Been of a fan of Tomasz since his battles with Briggs...

Vitaly & Haye due to their style I think beat Tomasz. However out of the 2 I think with Haye he's got a better shot at shocking him.

From there I think he's got a really good chance at beating Wladdy. Here's why, I think Wlad will be very catious and I think Adamek will be able to get inside and land shots.
A very hard fought but I think Adamek can pull it off.

From there I think Adamek can beat the likes of Povetkin, Chagaev, Thompson, Valuev, Dimitrenko. I just don't see anything that those guys have that can beat Adamek.

[ninjaspy3]

Been of a fan of Tomasz since his battles with Briggs...

Vitaly & Haye due to their style I think beat Tomasz. However out of the 2 I think with Haye he's got a better shot at shocking him.

From there I think he's got a really good chance at beating Wladdy. Here's why, I think Wlad will be very catious and I think Adamek will be able to get inside and land shots.
A very hard fought but I think Adamek can pull it off.

From there I think Adamek can beat the likes of Povetkin, Chagaev, Thompson, Valuev, Dimitrenko. I just don't see anything that those guys have that can beat Adamek.

Wow! I think this is the first time that I'm reading someone say that Adamek can beat Wlad.

Personally, I don't think it's possible. I don't think Adamek has enough power to keep Wladimir off of him and I doubt he will be able to outwork Wlad either since he will have to spend the majority of the fight just trying to get on the inside.