Wlad vs Chisora in the Works??

[Hornfinger]

This thread really does highlight how people make exceptions for the fighters they nut hug.

[El Kabong]

Changing styles doesn't happen over night, Manny had to rescue Wlad mentally and psychologically to get him back on top. Manny had to do a similar thing to Lennox Lewis. Like with Lennox Lewis who wasn't appreciated in the US until very late in his career, Manny wants to get Wlad that appreciation. I have faith that Manny and Wlad will make it happen, the only issue is back when Lennox was fighting there were some distractions in the heavyweight division, now it's JUST Wlad and Vitali and that makes it a little difficult to have these kind of "throw away" fights and try to explain them to the average fan. A spectacular KO of Derek Chisora means fuck all but the means in which that KO is acheived means a lot.

Wlad won't be exactly like he was vs Mercer because he had flaws there obviously, but Manny will get Wlad to open up sooner and utilize his defense a bit and maybe counter punch. I think they could have probably tried to get this style changed around earlier but that could have upended Wlad's career had they forced the change. It's going to be an easy change and you already see parts of it vs Sam Peter, more left hooks, more uppercuts, soon you may see Wlad go to the body a bit more or throw in combinations a bit more. It's going to take a while but once that switch flips in Wlad's mind we'll see more action and that's a great thing especially if other contenders can develop a bit as well.

[rjj tszyu]

Changing styles doesn't happen over night, Manny had to rescue Wlad mentally and psychologically to get him back on top. Manny had to do a similar thing to Lennox Lewis. Like with Lennox Lewis who wasn't appreciated in the US until very late in his career, Manny wants to get Wlad that appreciation. I have faith that Manny and Wlad will make it happen, the only issue is back when Lennox was fighting there were some distractions in the heavyweight division, now it's JUST Wlad and Vitali and that makes it a little difficult to have these kind of "throw away" fights and try to explain them to the average fan. A spectacular KO of Derek Chisora means fuck all but the means in which that KO is acheived means a lot.

Wlad won't be exactly like he was vs Mercer because he had flaws there obviously, but Manny will get Wlad to open up sooner and utilize his defense a bit and maybe counter punch. I think they could have probably tried to get this style changed around earlier but that could have upended Wlad's career had they forced the change. It's going to be an easy change and you already see parts of it vs Sam Peter, more left hooks, more uppercuts, soon you may see Wlad go to the body a bit more or throw in combinations a bit more. It's going to take a while but once that switch flips in Wlad's mind we'll see more action and that's a great thing especially if other contenders can develop a bit as well.

If by other contenders you mean Haye, I have emphasised before that he is not the finished article yet by quite a way, and I feel that is why he is stalling when he comes to a Wlad fight. I also feel it may be why he has taken the Audley fight. Audley is a very similar size to Wlad, he was a very good amateur like Wlad, but unlike Wlad he doesn't have the skill to convert that to the professional ranks. So it COULD be kind of a practice for Haye with someone of Wlads size (I am not in any way comparing him to Wlad by the way, I know that he is not even in reality a top 30 fighter and Wlad is THE MAN). Also if Vitali looks poor again when he fights "The Cannon" then I think Haye may feel the time is right to go for Vitali, again a man of similar size to Wlad, but a much bigger risk than Audley obviously. Then if he comes through that I think he will feel the time is right to go for Wlad.

Haye needs to improve in certain areas though and the main one is when he has someone hurt (like he did with Ruiz in the first minute), instead of wasting punches left right and centre against someone who is curled up defending, stepping back and picking his good hard shots that got them hurt in the first place. There are other points he needs to improve on but that is a real worry for me.

[El Kabong]

By "other contenders" I meant anyone else in the division, but yeah him too.

There are better fighters for him to chose from other than Audley that would help him prepare for Wlad in height, style, and technique: Dimitrenko, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, etc. but I suppose Audley is the one British fighter out of the lot that can serve as practice. Remember this dude fought Valuev, I don't see why he needs to fight someone tall again just for the sake of getting used to the size difference.

[rjj tszyu]

By "other contenders" I meant anyone else in the division, but yeah him too.

There are better fighters for him to chose from other than Audley that would help him prepare for Wlad in height, style, and technique: Dimitrenko, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, etc. but I suppose Audley is the one British fighter out of the lot that can serve as practice. Remember this dude fought Valuev, I don't see why he needs to fight someone tall again just for the sake of getting used to the size difference.

Audley is more like Wlad than Valuev though. Valuev doesn't even have the amateur style, he is just basically a freak that has size and not much else. As for Dimitrenko, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, etc they are not big money guarantees over here.

[El Kabong]

By "other contenders" I meant anyone else in the division, but yeah him too.

There are better fighters for him to chose from other than Audley that would help him prepare for Wlad in height, style, and technique: Dimitrenko, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, etc. but I suppose Audley is the one British fighter out of the lot that can serve as practice. Remember this dude fought Valuev, I don't see why he needs to fight someone tall again just for the sake of getting used to the size difference.

Audley is more like Wlad than Valuev though. Valuev doesn't even have the amateur style, he is just basically a freak that has size and not much else. As for Dimitrenko, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, etc they are not big money guarantees over here.

Yeah, I understand the whole "they aren't big attractions in England" but is the guy trying to prepare or is he trying to make money? He may hurt himself by trying to do both because although Audley may have been a good amateur right now he's not going to show you anything in the ring that Wlad will show you.

The Harrison fight is one just for the British fans, the only way it's interesting is if Harrison lasts the distance or wins and if either of those happen then a fight vs Wladimir is out the window along with millions of dollars.

[skel1983]

Looks like Warren and Del Boy really fancy the fight with Wlad like I say why the fuck not? Pretty hard task but if he looses so what, let's be honest if he took the usual route of trying to fight the best in the division a man with Chisora's skills would probably fall short before he got anywhere near being in that posistion, if Wlad beats him he will:

1. Be known to the world of boxing and could lead to other fights say with the likes of Arreola or Peter or another belt holder.

2.Goes back to domestic level as if nothing happens if anything a bit more respect and a much healthier bank balance.

Can see no reason not to take this fight for Del Boy he will only kick himself in the future when he gets beat on the way to the top by someone like Snowoski.


Would al so love to see Del Boys antics leading upto the fight.