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    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
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    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?

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    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post

    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?
    you have to remember that he fought in a time where not EVERY fight was put on PPV, but he had a HUGE following especially for his fight against Romero, and i meant it more on accomplishments, him and Ricky are about even

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post
    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post

    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?
    you have to remember that he fought in a time where not EVERY fight was put on PPV, but he had a HUGE following especially for his fight against Romero, and i meant it more on accomplishments, him and Ricky are about even

    Tapia maybe just shades it in what he has done in his career with how long he defended his title, Like Ricky though lost the majority of his big fights, but in terms of who is the bigger name. I think Hatton is a much bigger name by far just for the fact he has fought two of the biggest fighters in the history of the sport who will probably go down as top 25 of all time.

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    I don't know about in England but in the states Tapia was HUGE because of his exploits in and out of the ring. So saying that Tapia was a bigger name is by no means a stretch. I remember the backstory of the Romero fight when it was rumored that they came up in rival gangs and also Tapia's hard living kept him in the headlines on a consistent basis. Both parents were murdered, cocaine addiction and numerous arrests.............nuff said, oh yeah he was a talented fighter in his day.

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    Yep, Tapia was huge in the states especially when he first fought Danny Romero and all the drama behind it. The fight was on regular HBO and not PPV probably because of the weight they fought at. In fact I can't really remember any fight below 130 that was on PPV. The only fights I can remember being on PPV at 130 or lower was Pac and his wars with Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

    Tapia was a better all round fighter than Hatton and in my eyes more accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Yep, Tapia was huge in the states especially when he first fought Danny Romero and all the drama behind it. The fight was on regular HBO and not PPV probably because of the weight they fought at. In fact I can't really remember any fight below 130 that was on PPV. The only fights I can remember being on PPV at 130 or lower was Pac and his wars with Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

    Tapia was a better all round fighter than Hatton and in my eyes more accomplished.

    HAHAHAHAHA you biased yank! That's funny!

    Tapia didn't have a war with barrera. He was on the wrong end of a one sided beating. It was no war though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Yep, Tapia was huge in the states especially when he first fought Danny Romero and all the drama behind it. The fight was on regular HBO and not PPV probably because of the weight they fought at. In fact I can't really remember any fight below 130 that was on PPV. The only fights I can remember being on PPV at 130 or lower was Pac and his wars with Morales, Barrera, and Marquez.

    Tapia was a better all round fighter than Hatton and in my eyes more accomplished.

    HAHAHAHAHA you biased yank! That's funny!

    Tapia didn't have a war with barrera. He was on the wrong end of a one sided beating. It was no war though.
    Ha ha, calling me a bias Yank. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit, this is coming from a Haye dick sucker that proclaims him as the legit HW champ that is an all time great already.

    And I didn't say Tapia had a war with Barrera. Reread it again you dumb fuck. Go back to spamming how Haye is the legit HW champ and an atg. No wonder people here consider your posts to be so shitty and contributes nothing at all.

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    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post

    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?
    you have to remember that he fought in a time where not EVERY fight was put on PPV, but he had a HUGE following especially for his fight against Romero, and i meant it more on accomplishments, him and Ricky are about even

    Tapia maybe just shades it in what he has done in his career with how long he defended his title, Like Ricky though lost the majority of his big fights, but in terms of who is the bigger name. I think Hatton is a much bigger name by far just for the fact he has fought two of the biggest fighters in the history of the sport who will probably go down as top 25 of all time.
    Johnny Tapia deserved two wins over Paulie Ayala, the 1st fight was close but he deserved it. And in the rematch he totally outboxed Paulie Ayala and was robbed.

    He beat good names like Danny Romero, Nana Kondau, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Aswell as winning world titles at 3 weightclasses, i'd say he edge's Ricky Hatton quite clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Johnny Tapia deserved two wins over Paulie Ayala, the 1st fight was close but he deserved it. And in the rematch he totally outboxed Paulie Ayala and was robbed.

    He beat good names like Danny Romero, Nana Kondau, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Aswell as winning world titles at 3 weightclasses, i'd say he edge's Ricky Hatton quite clearly.
    clearly edge?

    ricky beat who tzu who was considfered the lb for lb best by many in the boxing circles

    tapia ever do that?

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    Johnny Tapia deserved two wins over Paulie Ayala, the 1st fight was close but he deserved it. And in the rematch he totally outboxed Paulie Ayala and was robbed.

    He beat good names like Danny Romero, Nana Kondau, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Aswell as winning world titles at 3 weightclasses, i'd say he edge's Ricky Hatton quite clearly.
    clearly edge?

    ricky beat who tzu who was considfered the lb for lb best by many in the boxing circles

    tapia ever do that?
    Kostya Tszyu was 35 and past his prime, yes it was a good win for Ricky Hatton. Considering Kostya Tszyu was P4P ranked, but other than that. Johnny Tapia clearly has the edge.

    He won 3 world titles in 3 weightclasses, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Its just the lower weightclasses don't get recognition, or the world wide attention like the higher weightclasses do.

    Not only do i think Johnny Tapia overall edges it because of his accomplishments, he's clearly a much better fighter aswell.

    Lastly Ricky Hatton wasted too much of his career, before actually winning a world title. Taking on mediocre or shot fighters, where as Johnny Tapia lost 4 years because of problems outside the ring, just imagine how even better his career could of been. Even though he already has a very good career.
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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton's only flaw is being human

    ricky may have done better at the lower weights because of the closer the classes are together

    ricky may have won 3 world titles at 3 weights because its easier to do down there

    was tzu past his best? i dunno, he had had some good results running up to the hatton fight and people were saying he was unbeatable

    ricky was a massive underdog

    and whatever path rickys carear took and whether or not he went the right route, he fought three fighters all considered the best in the world lb for lb by many boxing experts at the time of the fight

    ok he lost 2 of those, but is thats something tapia did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post
    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post

    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?
    you have to remember that he fought in a time where not EVERY fight was put on PPV, but he had a HUGE following especially for his fight against Romero, and i meant it more on accomplishments, him and Ricky are about even

    Tapia maybe just shades it in what he has done in his career with how long he defended his title, Like Ricky though lost the majority of his big fights, but in terms of who is the bigger name. I think Hatton is a much bigger name by far just for the fact he has fought two of the biggest fighters in the history of the sport who will probably go down as top 25 of all time.
    Johnny Tapia deserved two wins over Paulie Ayala, the 1st fight was close but he deserved it. And in the rematch he totally outboxed Paulie Ayala and was robbed.

    He beat good names like Danny Romero, Nana Kondau, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Aswell as winning world titles at 3 weightclasses, i'd say he edge's Ricky Hatton quite clearly.
    It is very close not quite clearly at all, Tapia beat old man Madina to claim his third weight title, his defenses on a whole are on par with Calzaghe, Hatton was number one is his division much longer than Tapia, both lost there biggest fights, Hatton has a better win on his resume, like I said very close I would give the edge to Tapia.

    Also people saying there was no ppv in his days at his weight Well that's my point Nothing you can do about the eras/circumstances the fact of the matter is Hatton is more well known in the world of boxing than Tapia FACT, no matter who thinks who is better that's just the way it is.

    Yes Tapia is a well known fighter but not even close to being as known as Hatton, Hatton is a much bigger name.

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    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Idontknow View Post

    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?
    you have to remember that he fought in a time where not EVERY fight was put on PPV, but he had a HUGE following especially for his fight against Romero, and i meant it more on accomplishments, him and Ricky are about even

    Tapia maybe just shades it in what he has done in his career with how long he defended his title, Like Ricky though lost the majority of his big fights, but in terms of who is the bigger name. I think Hatton is a much bigger name by far just for the fact he has fought two of the biggest fighters in the history of the sport who will probably go down as top 25 of all time.
    Johnny Tapia deserved two wins over Paulie Ayala, the 1st fight was close but he deserved it. And in the rematch he totally outboxed Paulie Ayala and was robbed.

    He beat good names like Danny Romero, Nana Kondau, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Aswell as winning world titles at 3 weightclasses, i'd say he edge's Ricky Hatton quite clearly.
    It is very close not quite clearly at all, Tapia beat old man Madina to claim his third weight title, his defenses on a whole are on par with Calzaghe, Hatton was number one is his division much longer than Tapia, both lost there biggest fights, Hatton has a better win on his resume, like I said very close I would give the edge to Tapia.

    Also people saying there was no ppv in his days at his weight Well that's my point Nothing you can do about the eras/circumstances the fact of the matter is Hatton is more well known in the world of boxing than Tapia FACT, no matter who thinks who is better that's just the way it is.

    Yes Tapia is a well known fighter but not even close to being as known as Hatton, Hatton is a much bigger name.
    Ricky Hatton is probably more well known than fighters like. Orlando Canizales, Ricardo Lopez, ETC. And i don't think anyone would think Ricky Hatton is better than those fighters.

    The fact is Johnny Tapia ruled his division alot longer, and made more title defenses. As well as winning 3 world titles in 3 weightclasses.

    Not only that, he was a better fighter clearly. He wasn't just a come forward fighter, he was a very good boxer with good defensive abilities, watch his fights vs Paulie Ayala 2 or Nana Kondau to see how good he could box.

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    Boxers that complies in your moronic brain then: - Pryor, Tyson, Ray Leonard, Hatton, Calzaghe, Vince Phillips, P Thomas, J Booth, many many more I can go on about all day.
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    There is a lot of pro boxers that take drugs, being in the gym 2-3 times a day, a lot use cocaine as there wind-down.

    So when I here moronic, childish armchair fans complain about not being clean. It makes me think have you ever been a pro boxer, or a top athlete in any sport. It just makes me think that you don't understand the level of commitment to be at there level.

    Personal habitants is what they choose, *personal*.

    I'm sure Ricky would make you his huckleberry if you said it face to face, but hey what am I thinking. You're an internet expert
    you forgot Arguello, Whitaker, and Tapia just to name a few more, all of them bigger names and more successful than Hatton and yet they felt the same burn from the fans, he's no victim stop trying to make him out to be one, he made a stupid mistake now he has to deal with the consequences
    Have a word with yourself mate, Tapia decent career, bigger name than Hatton? Sorry remind me the PPV fights he was involved in?
    you have to remember that he fought in a time where not EVERY fight was put on PPV, but he had a HUGE following especially for his fight against Romero, and i meant it more on accomplishments, him and Ricky are about even

    Tapia maybe just shades it in what he has done in his career with how long he defended his title, Like Ricky though lost the majority of his big fights, but in terms of who is the bigger name. I think Hatton is a much bigger name by far just for the fact he has fought two of the biggest fighters in the history of the sport who will probably go down as top 25 of all time.
    Johnny Tapia deserved two wins over Paulie Ayala, the 1st fight was close but he deserved it. And in the rematch he totally outboxed Paulie Ayala and was robbed.

    He beat good names like Danny Romero, Nana Kondau, and made 13 title defenses at Bantamweight. Aswell as winning world titles at 3 weightclasses, i'd say he edge's Ricky Hatton quite clearly.
    It is very close not quite clearly at all, Tapia beat old man Madina to claim his third weight title, his defenses on a whole are on par with Calzaghe, Hatton was number one is his division much longer than Tapia, both lost there biggest fights, Hatton has a better win on his resume, like I said very close I would give the edge to Tapia.

    Also people saying there was no ppv in his days at his weight Well that's my point Nothing you can do about the eras/circumstances the fact of the matter is Hatton is more well known in the world of boxing than Tapia FACT, no matter who thinks who is better that's just the way it is.

    Yes Tapia is a well known fighter but not even close to being as known as Hatton, Hatton is a much bigger name.
    Ricky Hatton is probably more well known than fighters like. Orlando Canizales, Ricardo Lopez, ETC. And i don't think anyone would think Ricky Hatton is better than those fighters.

    The fact is Johnny Tapia ruled his division alot longer, and made more title defenses. As well as winning 3 world titles in 3 weightclasses.

    Not only that, he was a better fighter clearly. He wasn't just a come forward fighter, he was a very good boxer with good defensive abilities, watch his fights vs Paulie Ayala 2 or Nana Kondau to see how good he could box.

    Mate go back and see why I brought this up , I have said I would regard Tapia as the higher ranked fighter in all times terms but not by much, El fella said Tapia was better known fighter than Hatton I was making the point he is no way near the profile of Hatton is or was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post

    It is very close not quite clearly at all, Tapia beat old man Madina to claim his third weight title, his defenses on a whole are on par with Calzaghe, Hatton was number one is his division much longer than Tapia, both lost there biggest fights, Hatton has a better win on his resume, like I said very close I would give the edge to Tapia.

    Also people saying there was no ppv in his days at his weight Well that's my point Nothing you can do about the eras/circumstances the fact of the matter is Hatton is more well known in the world of boxing than Tapia FACT, no matter who thinks who is better that's just the way it is.

    Yes Tapia is a well known fighter but not even close to being as known as Hatton, Hatton is a much bigger name.
    Hatton made his name beating old fighters no longer in there prime. The list is long. Freddie Pendleton, Vince Phillips, Ben Tackie, Kostya Tszyu, Jose Luis Castillo and Juan Lazcano. Hatton never beat an elite fighter who was in his prime. His best win over a fighter still in his prime is the one over the one-dimensional, crude Juan Urango. Collazo beat him. Malignaggi was an ok win. But Cotto had already bashed him good. And by all rights Paulie should of been coming off a loss to Lovemore N'dou. Hatton remains one of the most overrated fighters in the last 50 years.

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