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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    how come neither klit has ever fough valuev?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    how come neither klit has ever fough valuev?
    Well right now Valuev is recovering from surgery...but in history Sauerland and more recently Don King have tried to protect their fighter and have priced him out of plenty of fights.

    As some may recall, when Chicken Little bailed on Wlad and when Valuev refused to fight Chagaev the FIRST person the Klitschko camp called to make a fight was Valuev and he declined because he had trained to fight Chagaev as opposed to fighting Wladimir (but Wladimir had trained to fight Chicken Little).

    Valuev would be a good opponent for Wladimir, one of the few that's bigger than Wlad too. Valuev would get KO'd no doubt about it!


    James Toney ....I remember people said he would beat both Wlad and Vitali EASILY....Wlad would have toyed with Toney it would have been James' 1st KO loss. I wouldn't be surprised if they call Holyfield next.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    I don't care what anyone says, it's still a fight I wouldn't mind seeing. It should have happened a few years ago really and I guess Toney has shown his commitment to boxing by not fighting since Greer and going into that horrid floor humping carry on. But regardless, even at 42, I bet Toney could go the distance with Wlad. At 36 and in the right shape, I would even give him a shot at beating Wlad.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    I wonder if they would sanction a fight against Holyfield?

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    HAHAHA toney, a guy that hasnt been in a boxing ring for ages, is fat, well past his best and got beat in 3 minutes in a ufc fight.

    Way to go wlad. Way to go!

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    I would have loved to see this fight 4 or 5 years ago. Toney is way too shot now.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I would have loved to see this fight 4 or 5 years ago. Toney is way too shot now.

    Absolutely, 5 years ago Toney would have given either brother a good go. That's probably why wlad wants to fight him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    HAHAHA toney, a guy that hasnt been in a boxing ring for ages, is fat, well past his best and got beat in 3 minutes in a ufc fight.

    Way to go wlad. Way to go!
    #1 Unlike Audley, Toney was at one point a World Class heavyweight

    #2 James Toney is apparently WILLING to fight Wlad

    #3 Boxing isn't MMA and vice versa

    #4 No fight has been signed yet, so put a lid on it HF, especially since YOUR BOY is fighting a horrible heavyweight.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    If Wlad cannot fight a credfivle opponent for December give it a miss until he can he looks desperate at this rate.
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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    HAHAHA toney, a guy that hasnt been in a boxing ring for ages, is fat, well past his best and got beat in 3 minutes in a ufc fight.

    Way to go wlad. Way to go!
    #1 Unlike Audley, Toney was at one point a World Class heavyweight

    #2 James Toney is apparently WILLING to fight Wlad

    #3 Boxing isn't MMA and vice versa

    #4 No fight has been signed yet, so put a lid on it HF, especially since YOUR BOY is fighting a horrible heavyweight.
    Stop crying and face facts. Wlad wants to fight a toney or a chisora.

    Pathetic.


    And for the a millionth time. Show me a post where I defended Haye vs Fraudley. You need to stop bringing it up. It doesn't change the fact wlad is looking to fight any old bum that will sign any old contract.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I don't care what anyone says, it's still a fight I wouldn't mind seeing. It should have happened a few years ago really and I guess Toney has shown his commitment to boxing by not fighting since Greer and going into that horrid floor humping carry on. But regardless, even at 42, I bet Toney could go the distance with Wlad. At 36 and in the right shape, I would even give him a shot at beating Wlad.
    Nah mate, not a chance. He did what he did to Holyfield because Evanders Shoulder was badly injured. Even though he was waaaaay past his best if that had been a genuinely in shape Evander Toney would have got it handed to him big time. Wlad now would destroy any version of Toney, he is naturally too big for any 5'9 MW who's added 80lbs of fat to his body no matter how good a p4p fighter he was. This fight would be like Wlad fighting Hopkins if Hopkins added a shit load of fat and weighed around 230lbs.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    This is gonna sound desperate and sad maybe, but I think Toney has as good a chance as anyone to upset Wlad. Yeah he is horribly out of shape right now, but he has the technical ability to get inside and do work. He knows all the tricks in the book, and will probably have some tricks up his sleeve for the inside fighting(headbutts, hold and hit, etc). If he could just get into some kind of decent shape I'd give him a shot. IBF is full of shit on this one IMO.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    I have a feeling that even at his best, Toney would possibly be too small to beat the Klitschkos.
    The same way I think Adamek is too small. I think skill can only get one so far.

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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    This is gonna sound desperate and sad maybe, but I think Toney has as good a chance as anyone to upset Wlad. Yeah he is horribly out of shape right now, but he has the technical ability to get inside and do work. He knows all the tricks in the book, and will probably have some tricks up his sleeve for the inside fighting(headbutts, hold and hit, etc). If he could just get into some kind of decent shape I'd give him a shot. IBF is full of shit on this one IMO.
    Out of shape right now?? He hasn't been in shape since the Holyfield fight. Anything over 210 is out of shape for him.
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    Default Re: IBF won't sanction Wlad v Toney

    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Lane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    This is gonna sound desperate and sad maybe, but I think Toney has as good a chance as anyone to upset Wlad. Yeah he is horribly out of shape right now, but he has the technical ability to get inside and do work. He knows all the tricks in the book, and will probably have some tricks up his sleeve for the inside fighting(headbutts, hold and hit, etc). If he could just get into some kind of decent shape I'd give him a shot. IBF is full of shit on this one IMO.
    Out of shape right now?? He hasn't been in shape since the Holyfield fight. Anything over 210 is out of shape for him.
    For him being the operative word. The man shouldn't be fighting at heavyweight at all if he is a professional athlete....210 and 5'10" makes him borderline obese at that weight, if the division wasn't so shallow he'd have been out of it years ago.

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