Another of many opinions on haye....

[El Kabong]

Like Vit Klit got rocked by Pele Reid

.....Can you legally kick someone in boxing?

Thank you

[rjj tszyu]

I think Vitali is well past his best but I reckon he still easily beats Chicken Little. That dude got rocked by Monte Barrett!

When?? Maybe when he was rolling around laughing at Monte's ring entrance but certainly not in the fight. Or do you mean when Haye SLIPPED.



If i'm right I think Lyle means around the 8:42ish mark! Your bias is getting worse and worse Lyle. Its sad.

[Master]

I remember Bowe paying way over the odds just to get the crap WBO title from Herbie Hide, the Klits should do the same and get Haye in that ring and unify all the belts.

[El Kabong]

When?? Maybe when he was rolling around laughing at Monte's ring entrance but certainly not in the fight. Or do you mean when Haye SLIPPED.



If i'm right I think Lyle means around the 8:42ish mark! Your bias is getting worse and worse Lyle. Its sad.

Well #1 Monte caught him off balance to put him down, that was no slip #2 That's the biggest punch Chicken Little has caught since he's been at heavyweight.


TAKE OFF THE WATER WINGS AND JUMP IN THE DEEP END!!!

[bradlee180]

David Haye's the Main F*<kin' Man, he can do whatever the f*<k he wants!

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[El Kabong]

David Haye's the Main F*<kin' Man, he can do whatever the f*<k he wants!

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To be the "Main F*<kin' Man" you have to beat the "Main F*<kin' Man" and to do that you have to actually be willing to fight and get in the ring with the "Main F*<kin' Man"...Wladimir is the best of the division, by FAR.

[generalbulldog]

So when did Haye become the "man" of the division?

[Fenster]

I'm just saying just because Chicken Little can talk a good game it doesn't mean he fights one. Look at his competition at heavyweight, what does it say to you that Audley Harrison or perhaps Monte Barrett are the biggest punchers he's fought?

Are you now trying to say Haye is not a worthy opponent for Wlad?

Del Boy Chisora? Explain?

[El Kabong]

Are you now trying to say Haye is not a worthy opponent for Wlad?

Del Boy Chisora? Explain?

To answer your first question no, but Chicken Little is trying mighty hard to be just as Ruiz and Valuev were before him Junior Champion of the Heavyweight division. He's in the kiddie pool part of the heavyweight division.

To answer your second question, while the match up is not ideal it gives Wlad and Manny a chance to work on technique and style and at the same time it could take away one of Chicken Little's "Big Money/London Championship" fights....see if Chicken Little wants to fight another Brit he's either going to fight Chisora (and be compared with what Wlad does to him), or fight someone like Tyson Fury or some other poor shmuck and get laughed out of boxing.

The difference between Wlad fighting Chisora and Chicken Little fighting Audley is that Wlad has no choice right now but to fight who's available and willing to get in the ring with him....if he continues to be this dominant they may have some sort of George Foremanesque 3 matches, 1 fight right after another type thing. Also who's having fights vs the better competition Wlad or Chicken Little? Chicken Little still hasn't fought a heavyweight under the age of 36! He still hasn't fought a power puncher, he still hasn't fought an undefeated heavyweight...what does all this tell you? It tells me his management are trying to milk this because they know he has no hope in hell of beating or even being competitive with either Klitschko brother.

[Fenster]

Are you now trying to say Haye is not a worthy opponent for Wlad?

Del Boy Chisora? Explain?

To answer your first question no, but Chicken Little is trying mighty hard to be just as Ruiz and Valuev were before him Junior Champion of the Heavyweight division. He's in the kiddie pool part of the heavyweight division.

To answer your second question, while the match up is not ideal it gives Wlad and Manny a chance to work on technique and style and at the same time it could take away one of Chicken Little's "Big Money/London Championship" fights....see if Chicken Little wants to fight another Brit he's either going to fight Chisora (and be compared with what Wlad does to him), or fight someone like Tyson Fury or some other poor shmuck and get laughed out of boxing.

The difference between Wlad fighting Chisora and Chicken Little fighting Audley is that Wlad has no choice right now but to fight who's available and willing to get in the ring with him....if he continues to be this dominant they may have some sort of George Foremanesque 3 matches, 1 fight right after another type thing. Also who's having fights vs the better competition Wlad or Chicken Little? Chicken Little still hasn't fought a heavyweight under the age of 36! He still hasn't fought a power puncher, he still hasn't fought an undefeated heavyweight...what does all this tell you? It tells me his management are trying to milk this because they know he has no hope in hell of beating or even being competitive with either Klitschko brother.

Wlad is fighting Chisora to deny Haye the opportunity?

[Gandalf]

Bernstein was talking sense and it was good to see a pundit like him talking in such a candid way. The facts are on the record. Haye has agreed to fight a Klit twice. In both instances he has pulled out of the fight under dubious circumstances. And yet still he continues to motor his mouth along with an engine running solely on hot air. Haye does look ridiculous and signing up to fight Harrison makes him look like he belongs in a circus. It is pathetic.

Bernstein thinks Haye can't beat a Klit, but I don't see that as a contradiction. Just because you don't think one fighter can beat another fighter, doesn't mean that the fight shouldn't happen. It's called having an opinion. Haye has said he thinks he can beat the Klits and some on the forums will claim he can too and he has even signed up twice. And yet he simply won't fight a Klit. Two years of talk and an ancient John Ruiz is the biggest name on his resume (Valuev didn't beat anyone). TBH, I don't think Haye has proven he can hang with a Klit either, but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't at least back up his talk or just shut up once and for all.

[rjj tszyu]

When?? Maybe when he was rolling around laughing at Monte's ring entrance but certainly not in the fight. Or do you mean when Haye SLIPPED.



If i'm right I think Lyle means around the 8:42ish mark! Your bias is getting worse and worse Lyle. Its sad.

Well #1 Monte caught him off balance to put him down, that was no slip #2 That's the biggest punch Chicken Little has caught since he's been at heavyweight.


TAKE OFF THE WATER WINGS AND JUMP IN THE DEEP END!!!

Watch carefully. You see BOTH his feet sliding forward and he falls on his arse. His head never moves because the shot never even lands. And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked". Also he then gets up and does what an angry boxer should do and finishes his opponent, one thing Wlad is frightened to do until he's convinced his opponents won't fight back.

One thing I did notice rewatching this fight though is how much Hayes defence has started to improve, he was taking albeit little shots that he would never have taken against Valuev and Ruiz due to his ever improving footwork.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Thanks for posting up the Haye/ Barrett vid. I'd forgoten what an entertaining Heavyweight fight looked like. I also forgot just how dramatic Haye's power is.... But also just how bad his punching tekkers is.

[armin]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.