Another of many opinions on haye....

[armin]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.

[rjj tszyu]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.

I was ringside for that fight and remember thinking did he get clipped there. When I watched it on TV the day after he def was off balance. That was his biggest downfall vs Ruiz, his balance. But the lack of sparring can really damage important things like that.

Also and more importantly, I think IF Haye lands the first big shot he landed on Ruiz on Wlads chin the fights all over. Anyone agree??



1:34ish

[CFH]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.

I was ringside for that fight and remember thinking did he get clipped there. When I watched it on TV the day after he def was off balance. That was his biggest downfall vs Ruiz, his balance. But the lack of sparring can really damage important things like that.

Also and more importantly, I think IF Haye lands the first big shot he landed on Ruiz on Wlads chin the fights all over. Anyone agree??



1:34ish

Wlad is not going to get knocked out by one punch. His chin isn't that bad and Haye doesn't hit that hard.

[armin]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.

I was ringside for that fight and remember thinking did he get clipped there. When I watched it on TV the day after he def was off balance. That was his biggest downfall vs Ruiz, his balance. But the lack of sparring can really damage important things like that.

Also and more importantly, I think IF Haye lands the first big shot he landed on Ruiz on Wlads chin the fights all over. Anyone agree??



1:34ish

Wlad is not going to get knocked out by one punch. His chin isn't that bad and Haye doesn't hit that hard.

Agreed one punch just isn't going to do it, he took enough single shots from peter without problem. I doubt that haye will get to land that shot on wlad anyways, but at this point honestly I'm not sure they're even getting in the ring with each other for the next year or 2 if at all.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Haye put Ruiz on his bum with the 1st right hand he landed.
He also put Barret down with the 1st left hook he landed.

[El Kabong]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Haye put Ruiz on his bum with the 1st right hand he landed.
He also put Barret down with the 1st left hook he landed.

Well that's kind of a poor sample group seeing how Monte Barrett has been KO'd several times and John Ruiz simply refused to fight a power puncher after the David Tua debacle. Nicolay Valuev had never been KO'd and he remains that way after having fought the current WBA title holder and that tells me more about his power than the fights vs Barrett and Ruiz.

Listen, the guy is a title holder and undefeated in the heavyweight division he's a good fighter anything can happen, I'm just of the opinion that Wladimir is good enough to beat him easily. You guys can point to the John Ruiz knockdown all you like but look at how much respect he gave Ruiz...NONE because Ruiz isn't a big time puncher or a combination puncher, that punch was thrown because the fighter in question felt safe enough to throw it.

[Fenster]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.

I was ringside for that fight and remember thinking did he get clipped there. When I watched it on TV the day after he def was off balance. That was his biggest downfall vs Ruiz, his balance. But the lack of sparring can really damage important things like that.

Also and more importantly, I think IF Haye lands the first big shot he landed on Ruiz on Wlads chin the fights all over. Anyone agree??

Wlad is not going to get knocked out by one punch. His chin isn't that bad and Haye doesn't hit that hard.

Sanders, Brewster, Purity, Peter, Williamson.. Wlad has been over lots of times.

Have you ever seen Haye NOT hurt an opponent? He could easily win the fight with one punch.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

"And certainly at no point was he ever "rocked"."

He looked pretty rocked to me at 2:30 into that video, I mean getting a punch landed on you and going back in to the ropes counts as rocked as far as I know.

Rubbish. He was being mauled back the ropes anyway. Besides he was only clipped and was of no coincidence.

Haye was rocked by Ruiz though. I mean he stumbled/ staggered into the roped from about 3 meters.

I was ringside for that fight and remember thinking did he get clipped there. When I watched it on TV the day after he def was off balance. That was his biggest downfall vs Ruiz, his balance. But the lack of sparring can really damage important things like that.

Also and more importantly, I think IF Haye lands the first big shot he landed on Ruiz on Wlads chin the fights all over. Anyone agree??



1:34ish

No not then.

With exactly 13 seconds to go in round one Ruiz properly staggers Haye