Haye has a better chance at Vitali than Wlad IMO. Vitali's old and fragile.
Are they fighting?
I don't think Haye would go out to KO Vitali. I think he would be cagey and try and pick him off using his speed advantage. As far as NOT being able to?? Haye has the power to KO anyone in the world I guarantee that but Vitali has one hell of a chin, though I do doubt that it's still as good as it was when he fought Lennox.
I think Haye WOULD beat Vitali at this stage BUT prime Vitali would have been a different matter. Vitali has visibly declined a lot over the last 18 months and that was clear when he fought Sosnowski. The man who made the comeback vs Peter would have destroyed Albert way quicker than that and looked much better doing it.
I think Haye knows Vitali is in decline and if he decides to be a man after he destroys the Fraudster and actually fight a Klit, he will go for him before Wlad.
Well he's yet to fight a heavyweight that's younger than 36 so that last part may very well be true. IMO it's still a big ask for the guy because Vitali doesn't have to rely on punching power the KO's he has acheived are great and all but he can still score on any fighter out there. I know Vitali has slowed, but I think the Sosnowski fight is a bit deceptive. No he's not the guy that "harpooned" Kirk Johnson or that demolished Danny Williams, but he can still hurt any heavyweight in the world. I think his power has suffered because he doesn't sit down on all his punches like he used to, he's going to land some pretty hard but he's not going to shoot right hands like the one he caught Lennox Lewis with in the 2nd round of their fight....that was a humdinger (I think even Lennox would agree to that)
Haye has a glass chin mate that's where I come to my conclusion.All the way back to his am days whered he was put on his pants many a time, Vitali might be old still to powereful for Haye.
I was also on about Valuev having the hardest head in the history of boxing? Well who the fuck has he fought? Valuev would be ktfo by all the top boys in the history of the heavyweight divsion.
Last edited by skel1983; 10-11-2010 at 12:33 PM.
have you seen his head? it may or may not be the hardest but it looks like it should be
im not sure haye does have a glass jaw,
The only times (off the top of my head) he has really been hurt is against thompson and mormeck and i reckon the thompson KD was more that he was completely knackered and a bit weight drained against mormeck
its not excuses for him coz, despite being english, he int my favourite boxer i just dont think the evidence is conclusive of that
i ant seen the first one before and dont remember the second
you put forward a nice argument tho
im still on sure, vitali can band and could probably put anyone away with the right punch
and like i said would definately be the favourite, dont you think hayes combination of speed and power should give vital a test? even more so than anything he has before? (appart from lewis obviously)
I don't think Haye will beat him and I am not certain his power will do any damage, like Drago said Lewis landed a few bombs on Vitali and he didn't flinch, I think the age facotr maybe coes into it but I just can't see Haye doing it, both of them are too big for Haye imo, if they ever happen I will be cheering Haye on but it is a big task to beat any of the brothers.
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