Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
Lyle my friend you never cease to amaze me, you know NOTHING about Ancient combat systems were the origin of most martial arts come from Hence MMA which run 100's of years before Boxing, it was called survival.. For Example some Ancient combat systems are indigenous to the regions they were born from...Long before they had guns and knifes,swords armor,people defended themselves with there limbs hand to hand combat and slowly weapons were incorporated as they were introduced to society..Some combat systems are weapons oriented so they can be done open handed or with a sword,knife,stick but the movements are the same..Strikes that are more civilized have been incorporated into the sport form while other movements like joint manipulations joint destruction eye gouging have etc have been left out for obvious reasons

Entertainment value is subjective I agree 100% and thats your right to dislike it but thats an all time low for you to get on a public forum and take an unprovoked attack on someones style..I work hard at what I do and to have some punk a** like you to tell me I'm girly for kicking someone is bullshit period!!!! its a whole different skill set all together...

Tell you Mr big balls,Would you be willing to step in a cage with a welterweight NHB fighter and tell him his style sucks and he is a girl for what he does? I tend to believe you wouldnt have the 1st Idea on how to deal with the consequences though...we would find you trying to climb the side of the cage like some pathetic snivelling keyboard jocky you are

Stick to what you know... Hugging Wlads nuts OH!!!!! and more tradional for you would be tugging on Foremans too

You Know were the TRADITION is from ancient martial arts Its called survival you get to live another day thats the FRIGGIN LINEAGE YOU POMPOUS THICK HEADED MORON!!!!

1 more thing Boxing is considered a Martial Art!!!
I got to say I am sorry for insulting you and calling you a moron and a Wlad Hugger. I feel as though disliking something is fine and your God given right, but dont S*** on what someone else does and other Martial Arts (especially unprovoked) just cause you dont like it or find it entertaining........

Being a Martial artist is not about owning Karate kid headbands,Chinese stars, numchuks and having Velvet Bruce Lee paintings, Its very rich in tradition, history and different cultural understanding..Things like arm bars and leg locks,chokes etc are designed to break bones and mutilate and to mame in real life self defense situations, but made more civilized and used as submissions for sport purposes...

These moves were no invented in the mid 90's they have been around for hundreds of years for survival thats the tradition...
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I understand the whole "martial arts" tradition, I never said anything about Ju Jutsu, Tae Kwan Do, and so on and so forth as for "Mixed Martial Arts" or "Pride" or "Ultimate Fighting" I don't like them, yeah ok if people want to kick in fights whatever, I don't care, yeah I guess in a "street fight" I would expect such tactics but I don't kick, call me old fashioned, call me whatever you want I would just rather use my fists.

If you are going to have no holds barred fighting, then do it right, pride and ufc...take away the gloves and let the guys go at it...I'm not a fan of submission holds either, it's boring it's childish...you remember the bully in A Christmas Story "say uncle, say uncle"....I don't know maybe something is wrong with me, I'd rather see boxing.

I have nothing but respect for the tradition of martial arts though