Who the hell watches crap like The X-factor or Strictly come dancing?

[Memphis]

But thats the thing Miles, for most people this is 'real' music, its called pop for a reason, disagree all you want but the numbers dont lie.

I wouldnt get to upset over the judging, Dani Minogue and Cheryl Whatever judging someones voice?

for someone who watches it by proxy your well clued up mate

[Gandalf]

But thats the thing Miles, for most people this is 'real' music, its called pop for a reason, disagree all you want but the numbers dont lie.

I wouldnt get to upset over the judging, Dani Minogue and Cheryl Whatever judging someones voice?

for someone who watches it by proxy your well clued up mate

Honestly, I don't watch it, but my computer is about 9 feet away from the TV. I hear it all and if the wife is in TV mode then that means I need to be quiet to allow her her time because at other times I put on my CD's and am entitled to my time. That's why I am having my rant on here because I am able to say what I want without repercussions. I think the programme is shit, but it's never good to walk up to the wife and say "Your programme is shit". That never goes down well.

You can call it pop, but a karaoke cover version is not pop. That is pop devoid of even the futile attempt at copying something new. The Beatles were 'pop', they sold and created. Bowie was 'pop', he sold and created. You can maintain your integrity and sell records. You just need the talent to write a good tune and these muppets have NONE of that. This is Big Brother pop, this is manufactured pop and using the TV time to tell you it is pop. "This is the pop you need to consume because it was on your TV" kind of pop...just like a free commercial. That isn't real music.

The numbers don't lie. They tell us that people are stupid and that celebrity culture has gone too far. You need to be a talented person in order to deserve the right to make an album. However this constant dumbing down in the age of the internet basically means that new talent will be harder to find and that we will be more and more strewn with dullards interpreting old songs on TV shows like this. Instead we could be getting music with new bands trying out new things, but instead we get Susan Boyle.

[Doot]

It definitely helps people out who like to sing a certain kind of music such as opera or broadway Those people would prob not get a shot anywhere else.
The X Factor brings out lots of different kinds of genres and gives people of all types a shot at making a living. Its the show itself that chooses the songs the people sing, so its not like they can write their own songs and perform them.

[Gandalf]

It definitely helps people out who like to sing a certain kind of music such as opera or broadway Those people would prob not get a shot anywhere else.
The X Factor brings out lots of different kinds of genres and gives people of all types a shot at making a living. Its the show itself that chooses the songs the people sing, so its not like they can write their own songs and perform them.

But at the same time, honest bands have no television coverage. These people bring nothing new except a well trained voice? Okay great, they have a chance to perform in broadway or a new boyband. And yet the music lover has to be deprived of proper music from bands that take the care to write interesting new material.

A decent music programme can give proper bands the ability to survive too. And yet you would rather focus on a bunch of prima donnas with all the stage lights? Pathetic. It is karaoke for a class of chavs that have aspirations and need to be voted for by other Chavs. Intelligent people, need pay no part. It also tells you that the UK is done.

[Doot]

whats not proper music about broadway and opera? are there any good bands out today that put out good music? I can't think of any, all good music comes from the past when it actually meant something. again though the people that are on these shows don't get the chance to write their own music they have to sing well known songs that the show provides.
There is nothing stopping these bands with "proper music" to try out on the show and do some advertising for themselves.

[Gandalf]

whats not proper music about broadway and opera? are there any good bands out today that put out good music? I can't think of any, all good music comes from the past when it actually meant something. again though the people that are on these shows don't get the chance to write their own music they have to sing well known songs that the show provides.
There is nothing stopping these bands with "proper music" to try out on the show and do some advertising for themselves.

British Sea Power are gearing up
Arcade Fire just released a splendid album
Brett Anderson is producing some interesting solo stuff

But are these people ever going to appear on X factor? They all write great stuff, but why should they appear on a false karaoke show?

Just to have Simon Cowell say"You sound too whiney for my liking!". What a crock of shit. There is no respectability to be gained from appearing on a show like this.

It's an absurd programme and the fact that you adhere to it, makes you seem a bit simple.

[Doot]

I'm just a simple man I guess. I am not about hating on things that really have no impact on my life. I enjoy the show and look forward to it every week, its not just the people singing I enjoy its the stories of the people, lots of them have tried their entire careers to establish themselves and just couldn't get a chance and that show gives them that and its nice to watch.
There is a lady on this season she seems to be around 50 years old and she sounds great, its not like she is going to be a pop star or even wants to be one, she just wants to sing.
why hate on her?

[Doot]

[Drago]

never seen dancing on ice x factor strictly or big brother or any of that shite i am proud to say

oh wait i did watch i'm a celeb get me out of here when nigel benn was on it

[CutMeMick]

All I know is that Cher Lloyd needs to record "Turn My Swag On" cause that girl can sing the shit out of that song and her version is 10 times better the Keri Hilson or Soulja Boys version.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

All I know is that Cher Lloyd needs to record "Turn My Swag On" cause that girl can sing the shit out of that song and her version is 10 times better the Keri Hilson or Soulja Boys version.

She is shit. Dot Cotton head.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

the best part is using twitter to message everyone about how shit they all are.
I also commentate on Masterchef.

some funny people out there.

[Nameless]

Never have, never will. Life's too short. The only thing I give a glance from time to time are the best x-factor's failures on youtube for entertainment but that's as far as I go.

[Gandalf]

If 20 million people watch this shit, then it tells me that the UK is not my home. At the same time, if I am forced to listen to it in my own home then maybe my own home is not my own home either.

I am an alternative man with alternative views and to hell with crap like the X factor. I like proper music and proper music has its own definition.

Alternative music will find its way, but this X factor shit should be banned. Anybody who buys this "Heroes" cover for charity should be shot IMO. I am not against charity, but this song is being abused. It is one of the classics of our rock and roll past, and here we have a bunch of Big Brother wannabe's cutting it up. I really don't approve.

[ono]

If 20 million people watch this shit, then it tells me that the UK is not my home. At the same time, if I am forced to listen to it in my own home then maybe my own home is not my own home either.

I am an alternative man with alternative views and to hell with crap like the X factor. I like proper music and proper music has its own definition.

Alternative music will find its way, but this X factor shit should be banned. Anybody who buys this "Heroes" cover for charity should be shot IMO. I am not against charity, but this song is being abused. It is one of the classics of our rock and roll past, and here we have a bunch of Big Brother wannabe's cutting it up. I really don't approve.

To be fair, TV in general is fairly shit. Flick through the TV guide on Sky. X Factor would be the least of your worries.

Doesn't bother me at all. The media obsession with an emotionally unstable 17 year old gypsy rapper bothers me much more than the programme in itself. Granted, i don't watch once it gets past the audition stages, but it's still probably not as bad as half of the shite sky get away with broadcasting.