Who the hell watches crap like The X-factor or Strictly come dancing?

[Gandalf]

If 20 million people watch this shit, then it tells me that the UK is not my home. At the same time, if I am forced to listen to it in my own home then maybe my own home is not my own home either.

I am an alternative man with alternative views and to hell with crap like the X factor. I like proper music and proper music has its own definition.

Alternative music will find its way, but this X factor shit should be banned. Anybody who buys this "Heroes" cover for charity should be shot IMO. I am not against charity, but this song is being abused. It is one of the classics of our rock and roll past, and here we have a bunch of Big Brother wannabe's cutting it up. I really don't approve.

[Gandalf]

whats not proper music about broadway and opera? are there any good bands out today that put out good music? I can't think of any, all good music comes from the past when it actually meant something. again though the people that are on these shows don't get the chance to write their own music they have to sing well known songs that the show provides.
There is nothing stopping these bands with "proper music" to try out on the show and do some advertising for themselves.

British Sea Power are gearing up
Arcade Fire just released a splendid album
Brett Anderson is producing some interesting solo stuff

But are these people ever going to appear on X factor? They all write great stuff, but why should they appear on a false karaoke show?

Just to have Simon Cowell say"You sound too whiney for my liking!". What a crock of shit. There is no respectability to be gained from appearing on a show like this.

It's an absurd programme and the fact that you adhere to it, makes you seem a bit simple.

[Doot]

I'm just a simple man I guess. I am not about hating on things that really have no impact on my life. I enjoy the show and look forward to it every week, its not just the people singing I enjoy its the stories of the people, lots of them have tried their entire careers to establish themselves and just couldn't get a chance and that show gives them that and its nice to watch.
There is a lady on this season she seems to be around 50 years old and she sounds great, its not like she is going to be a pop star or even wants to be one, she just wants to sing.
why hate on her?

[Gandalf]

I'm just a simple man I guess. I am not about hating on things that really have no impact on my life. I enjoy the show and look forward to it every week, its not just the people singing I enjoy its the stories of the people, lots of them have tried their entire careers to establish themselves and just couldn't get a chance and that show gives them that and its nice to watch.
There is a lady on this season she seems to be around 50 years old and she sounds great, its not like she is going to be a pop star or even wants to be one, she just wants to sing.
why hate on her?

Why hate on her?

If she wants to sing then show me the material that she has written. Nothing at 50? Well, that answers it all. She has no talent. Lou Reed cannot sing for shit, but is a very important artist. Put him on X factor and show me how well he does. This man wrote great songs, and yet he doesn't have a great voice. Then show the public his message, what he wrote about.

I hate her because she has nothing to say. I loathe any person with nothing to say.

[Doot]

no you see I have said this twice already, the contestants don't get to write and perform their own stuff. The show gives them a sheet with a bunch of songs on it and they can choose from the list. There are lots of contestants that write their own stuff but can't sing it. Take Matt Cardle this season he is on by himself and singing the shows songs but in real life he is in a band and writes his own stuff and it isnt all that bad. his band is called Seven Summers.

[Doot]

So I am assuming here that you loathe any singer from the present and past that didnt write their own stuff?

[Gandalf]

Are you telling me that a Bob Dylan, an early Bowie or even Lou Reed could have developed on this show?

I loathe this show because it is 100% fake. You need to listen to the opinion of Simon Cowell to buy a record? You are fake too. Have fun with the "Heroes" charity single. It is immoral and against what any Bowie fan believes in.

[ono]

If 20 million people watch this shit, then it tells me that the UK is not my home. At the same time, if I am forced to listen to it in my own home then maybe my own home is not my own home either.

I am an alternative man with alternative views and to hell with crap like the X factor. I like proper music and proper music has its own definition.

Alternative music will find its way, but this X factor shit should be banned. Anybody who buys this "Heroes" cover for charity should be shot IMO. I am not against charity, but this song is being abused. It is one of the classics of our rock and roll past, and here we have a bunch of Big Brother wannabe's cutting it up. I really don't approve.

To be fair, TV in general is fairly shit. Flick through the TV guide on Sky. X Factor would be the least of your worries.

Doesn't bother me at all. The media obsession with an emotionally unstable 17 year old gypsy rapper bothers me much more than the programme in itself. Granted, i don't watch once it gets past the audition stages, but it's still probably not as bad as half of the shite sky get away with broadcasting.

[Doot]

where does all this anger you have come from? all of it really from a tv show?

I said nothing about needing the opinion of Simon or any other judge to help me choose who I like or dislike. When the show is over I don't go out and buy any albums from the contestants and I don't even listen to them anymore but it doesn't matter, at the time its nice to listen to. Who cares if those singers of the past could have developed on this show, thats the past. Thats not what its about, its about exposure and getting yourself known to the public so when its over you can make your own music and become an artist.
I just dont see how a show with real people on it just singing is fake there IS nothing to fake. take it for what it is, there isn't some huge conspiracy to bring down the music industry like you would like to believe.

[Doot]

[Drago]

never seen dancing on ice x factor strictly or big brother or any of that shite i am proud to say

oh wait i did watch i'm a celeb get me out of here when nigel benn was on it

[0james0]

I've actually warmed to Xfactor this year, first time ever. The main reason is because most of them actually can sing. They might not be musical geniuses like some of the greats mentioned, but why should they be, it's not a show about making your own music, it's about singing and performing.

That Matt what ever his name is, he's good, you can just tell he'll bring out unique music after the show.

Inbetweeners is on tonight, watch that instead.

[Youngblood]

Saddo does for sure. He's always jumping in the reality tv threads and knows exactly what is going on. He's a pretty cool guy but loses a point for watching big brother, imo.

[Youngblood]

i watch american idol. so guess i need to confess. but not always the whole season, usually just the first few weeks for all the delusional retards. love the look of disbelief on their faces when they get told they kinda suck. lol

but a couple of seasons i got sucked into watching it week after week right till the final episode.

[ono]

i watch american idol. so guess i need to confess. but not always the whole season, usually just the first few weeks for all the delusional retards. love the look of disbelief on their faces when they get told they kinda suck. lol

but a couple of seasons i got sucked into watching it week after week right till the final episode.

Same thing happened to me. To be fair, it was the GF. I tagged along.