Haye accuses Klit bros of fighting old run down Americans and rejecting his offer

[killersheep]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

[Fenster]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

[killersheep]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

[skel1983]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

Nothing, Sky bought the rights from Golden Boy for a set fee like they do with all American cards shown on Sky, the numbers of ppv had no reflection on the money sky paid for the fight.

[killersheep]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

Nothing, Sky bought the rights from Golden Boy for a set fee like they do with all American cards shown on Sky, the numbers of ppv had no reflection on the money sky paid for the fight.

Well as long as ODLH didn't get a cut of that and it didn't effect the amount of money left to pay out the PPV feature fighters you're absolutely right . It is a variable percentage because it is a fixed cost, but it is still a percentage none the less. Hence greater than zero.

[skel1983]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

Nothing, Sky bought the rights from Golden Boy for a set fee like they do with all American cards shown on Sky, the numbers of ppv had no reflection on the money sky paid for the fight.

Well as long as ODLH didn't get a cut of that and it didn't effect the amount of money left to pay out the PPV feature fighters you're absolutely right . It is a variable percentage because it is a fixed cost, but it is still a percentage none the less. Hence greater than zero.

I am not to sure if you are being sarcastic there Greg, if not I apologise.

But are you trying to be smart there? Of course they got some financial gain from sky showing the fight live, there not going to give it to Sky for free, so if you are trying to correct me for sayin they got nothing then quite a silly question in the first place to think one of the bggest fights of the year would of been without any finances going Golden Boys way.

But Sky have a budget for American cards and it has nothing to do with the PPV, it just made the Khan bill more attractive with it falling on the same night, the two fights could of been on two different nights and the same money would have been paid by Sky to both Khan which would of been PPV and Golden Boy which would of not been on PPV.

[killersheep]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

Nothing, Sky bought the rights from Golden Boy for a set fee like they do with all American cards shown on Sky, the numbers of ppv had no reflection on the money sky paid for the fight.

Well as long as ODLH didn't get a cut of that and it didn't effect the amount of money left to pay out the PPV feature fighters you're absolutely right . It is a variable percentage because it is a fixed cost, but it is still a percentage none the less. Hence greater than zero.

I am not to sure if you are being sarcastic there Greg, if not I apologise.

But are you trying to be smart there? Of course they got some financial gain from sky showing the fight live, there not going to give it to Sky for free, so if you are trying to correct me for sayin they got nothing then quite a silly question in the first place to think one of the bggest fights of the year would of been without any finances going Golden Boys way.

But Sky have a budget for American cards and it has nothing to do with the PPV, it just made the Khan bill more attractive with it falling on the same night, the two fights could of been on two different nights and the same money would have been paid by Sky to both Khan which would of been PPV and Golden Boy which would of not been on PPV.

Absolutely, God save the queen.

[Fenster]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

Hmm... lets see - I'm pretty sure i've witnessed American fans showing rowdy support for their countrymen. Mexicans for their guys. Puerto Rico, Ireland, Denmark, Australia, etc etc. MANY fans from all over the world passionately support their countrymen.

The Brits are no different.

[boxingbantz]

"Haye is a liar and a coward"

[killersheep]

Now Fenster is on the money here, the Pac Marg fight won't make a bit of difference to the Haye/Audely fight not one bit.

Haye/Harrison fight had nothing to do with the Pac fight being on the same night at all.

The reason the Haye fight is on the November 13th is because that is the only time before christmas that there is a date available at one of the two big arena's in the uk. MEN and O2. That is the sole reason tht the fight is on this date Greg nothing to do with the Pac fight at all.

Pac Hatton only did 300k on ppv, the Smae Hatton who did 1.4 million v Mayweather. On another note sky havne't even officialy announced the Pac fight is on sky yet have they?

Great point.

I think Sky have a date filled for every Saturday until christmas too.

It must be hard for overseas fans to comprehend that worldwide boxing stars are not as big as British fighters here. We pay for Khan-Salita but get Oscar-Floyd free.

Pac-Margarito is FAR more important to the boxing world than Haye-Harrison yet it will be totally overshadowed by the British contest here. It might get a fleeting mention in the sports pages.

I don't think anyone that gives it two seconds thought underestimates British fanaticism.

That's a bit harsh.

It's like this - Pac-Margarito happens at 4am UK time and gets zero press coverage. Haye-Harrison happens at 9pm primetime and gets tons of press coverage.

You expect the general British fanatic to be interested in something they know nothing about and can't see? Come on now Sheepy

Never said that, I said British are fanatics, never said anything about being more interested Pac/Margarito than Haye/Harrison. I don't think there's anything harsh in what I said at all, or perhaps you don't think British fans are fanatics?

Some are for sure. Just like you find fanatics everywhere else.

I think if you used the word "some" it wouldn't have been as harsh

Aside from Pacquiao in the Philippines, I can't think of any other nation that currently supports their fighters in a more rowdy way. Can you?

Also what kind of cut do you think ODLH and Pac got from the Khan PPV? Greater than 0%? Or did they get nothing from it?

Hmm... lets see - I'm pretty sure i've witnessed American fans showing rowdy support for their countrymen. Mexicans for their guys. Puerto Rico, Ireland, Denmark, Australia, etc etc. MANY fans from all over the world passionately support their countrymen.

The Brits are no different.

Oh this all tongue in cheek anyway.

Look at all the rabid American fans coming help me out here.

At any rate, Haye is still a giant douche bag.

[El Kabong]

Oh this all tongue in cheek anyway.

Look at all the rabid American fans coming help me out here.

At any rate, Haye is still a giant douche bag.

I'm not Ukrainian or German, and I have been a Klitschko fan since the first time I ever got to see them fight (I think the first fight I watched Wlad in was the Shufford fight) don't get me wrong I'd love to see quality American heavyweights, but I don't just root for someone because of their nationality. In my opinion more than a few Brits have some sort of Napoleon complex (ironically enough), the great empire is dusted and done, they are no more. Sure you've got SOME world class boxers, but not EVERYONE who comes out of England is the greatest thing this side of Ali. Americans don't think every decent American fighter is world class, not even the ones that win the belts...we like to see our fighters tested and they have to fight in a manner that is crowd pleasing as well. You no doubt saw how many Americans supported John Ruiz during his reign as title holder....not that many and for a number of reasons #1 He wasn't the best fighter, #2 He never tried to become the best fighter #3 He had an ugly style #4 He only got the WBA title because he was a Don King fighter and everyone knows it.

I'm just tired of the Naseem Hamed style personalities coming out of England, why can't you guys produce more Frank Bruno's?