Wild Card gym Michael Moorer what happened?

[Landon]

I know this must be old news but I remember Moorer was working with Freddy at the Wild Card and I thought he eventually was going to take over . Now I dont see him with Freddy or at all .Did they have a falling out. I missed what happened.

[DaxxKahn]

Supposedly the thing with all the PED and steroid rumors going on in Freddies camp made Moorer decide to take a step back for a while until something was done be it verified or proven false

[Landon]

Thanks. So they didnt have big falling out.

[Violent Demise]

Thanks. So they didnt have big falling out.

Actually they did. Moorer had put a lot of trust into Roach. He had bought into the crap Roach was spitting. He was looking forward to taking over Roach's spot. And hopefully matching his success. Moorer was greatly shocked, disappointed and hurt to find out that Roach's success was due to chemicals injected by needle. Moorer wanted no part of the fraud known as the Wild Card gym.

[rjj tszyu]

Thanks. So they didnt have big falling out.

Actually they did. Moorer had put a lot of trust into Roach. He had bought into the crap Roach was spitting. He was looking forward to taking over Roach's spot. And hopefully matching his success. Moorer was greatly shocked, disappointed and hurt to find out that Roach's success was due to chemicals injected by needle. Moorer wanted no part of the fraud known as the Wild Card gym.

No the story I heard was he has gone off to another project called the HW factory where he and Oliver McCall train HW prospects in the hope of producing the next American HW champ. Apparently there was no hard feelings between him and Roach whatsoever!

[Spicoli]

Moorer has always seemed a head case with a chip on shoulder

[generalbulldog]

Thanks. So they didnt have big falling out.

Actually they did. Moorer had put a lot of trust into Roach. He had bought into the crap Roach was spitting. He was looking forward to taking over Roach's spot. And hopefully matching his success. Moorer was greatly shocked, disappointed and hurt to find out that Roach's success was due to chemicals injected by needle. Moorer wanted no part of the fraud known as the Wild Card gym.

No the story I heard was he has gone off to another project called the HW factory where he and Oliver McCall train HW prospects in the hope of producing the next American HW champ. Apparently there was no hard feelings between him and Roach whatsoever!

Very interesting.

I thought it was that Moorer didn't get along with the fighters and none of the fighters liked him, or so it was explained in one of the 24/7 episodes.

[Violent Demise]

Moorer has always seemed a head case with a chip on shoulder

No doubt Moorer has always had his faults. But cheater wasn't one of them. He wanted no part of the Wild Card gym when he saw Roach inject Pac in the butt. Roach shooting Pac up with steroids afterwards also bothered him greatly

[Spicoli]

Moorer has always seemed a head case with a chip on shoulder

No doubt Moorer has always had his faults. But cheater wasn't one of them. He wanted no part of the Wild Card gym when he saw Roach inject Pac in the butt. Roach shooting Pac up with steroids afterwards also bothered him greatly

Yeh I can see where Moorer would be on shakey terms with Roach...or vice versa. consider things too shifty.

[rjj tszyu]

Looks like Moorer has left the HW Factory. He's no longer listed as a trainer and this is the only article I can find where they even mention him as a trainer!
The Heavyweight Factory Begins Journey | The Heavyweight Factory

Also VD! Are you Floyd Mayweather

[SABBY]

Hi im new to this so i want to ask you how to get into the classes or any info about getting into classes or having a trainer?

[Bomp]

It was explained in one of the 24/7's that he told one of Pac's entourage to get the fuck out of a training session without realising it was someone Pac wanted there.

[TheMacMagician]

Hi im new to this so i want to ask you how to get into the classes or any info about getting into classes or having a trainer?

I reckon you need to dive on to the training board my friend. Someone like SCRAP i'm sure would send you in the right direction.....

As for Moorer, he seemed like quite an intense individual who probably needed his own room......

[JazMerkin]

Thanks. So they didnt have big falling out.

Actually they did. Moorer had put a lot of trust into Roach. He had bought into the crap Roach was spitting. He was looking forward to taking over Roach's spot. And hopefully matching his success. Moorer was greatly shocked, disappointed and hurt to find out that Roach's success was due to chemicals injected by needle. Moorer wanted no part of the fraud known as the Wild Card gym.

To be fair VD, I think Roach takes a 'see no evil, hear no evil' approach to what his fighters do. I think he's aware that some guys may do it, but he simply sees it as his job to train them, the rest of it is their responsibility. Also before all the Pac-lovers get in a twist, I think this can be demonstrated by how he handled the James Toney thing, where Roach even said he suspected he was on something, but didn't say anything.

[Nameless]

The fact that Pac didn't want a test made a lot of eyebrows to raise. Sure, it doesn't mean neither prove that he took something but to clear the air, he should have taken the test straight away. Now to accuse him without space room for interpretation of being a Peds user is quite exaggerate too and there is something to keep in mind: Him and Floyd have quite boosted egos and seem to like when things work their way, more or less, if I recall, at the end, Pac was ok with bloodtest 10 days prior to the fight but not more. Though I think it should be anytime, it was starting to look reasonable, especially if a test can be made after the fight. I could imagine Manny thinking: "who are you to tell me what to do and not do?" and refusing some of the terms solely on that. As for Roach, I am 100% convinced that he's not juicing his athletes but adopt a politics like the one Jaz mentioned, his job is to train and boost his fighter to the limit, the rest is not of his resort.