Chavez is a first ballot Hall of Famer. It's moronic to say otherwise. The points provided are not even points. It's what happens when one just hates and doesn't really know the sport.

1, Whitaker beat a lot of fighters. No shame losing to him. But not only was Chavez past his prime. He was fighting 2 weight classes above his best.

2, Chavez ruined Taylor. There was no immediate rematch cuz Taylor wasn't even physically clear to fight till 3 months after the first Chavez fight. At which point Taylor elected to move up in weight rather than face Chavez again.

3, Chavez benefited from a moronic WBC rule in the 2nd fight. A rule that was in place way before the fight. That can't be held against him. Randall was shot in the 3rd fight. Ok. Like Chavez wasn't

4, He was 36, fighting against a bigger, stronger opponent above his best weight. He was completely shot. But decided to go toe to toe with Oscar anyway. His corner stopped the fight due to his lip damn near almost falling off.

5, You kidding me? Nelson never wanted Chavez. Nelson didn't move up to Super Featherweight till Chavez moved up to Lightweight. At which point Nelson declined AN OFFER to move up to Lightweight and faced Chavez in order to fight Jesse James Leija

6, Buddy McGirt? Your fucking kidding me. That would of been a tune-up for Chavez

7, Brown and Chavez were never even close to being in the same division at the same time. This is just stupidity to mention.

8, Your a fucking idiot. Norris spent his whole career at 154. Chavez had no business being as high as 147. And when exactly was a fight with Starling or Trinidad doable? Explain