I've always thought he quit vs Randall. Period. But he made some great adjustments in that fight in boxing Frankie who's belly must have had led in it as he took boo koo body damage. He was stunned early...saw the writing on the wall and when cut happened he milked it. Opted out.

Nelson stylistically stood better chance with JCC I believe. He went for name & network. Cannot be dismissed for going for Pernell where as it pains me to say....he was a puppet on a string. Love Nelson to death....but four,four scraps with Leija at that stage. Ugh.

Chavez vs Norris strikes me same as a much talked about Norris vs Whitaker "p4p" i.e name fight at the time....a loss for guy who had little business that high with a fellow elite.

Call me crazy... I had Haugen over Camacho twice. Touch glove or no touch glove. But yeh that was about setting records against a willing tough who could talk up a fight. But no love for Rosario in contrast? One of his best executions of a game plan. And really...Lockridge did himself proud prior to and post Chavez battle. That was a quality win should not be dismissed.

Chavez had some soft touches and became too enamored (promoter really) with reaching 100 wins in the later days. I think one thing that gets over lookes is he was pretty much a co star to Tyson as far as Showtime network and King were concerned. he was and should be a 1st ballot hall of famer.