Eric wtf mate, you are one bizzare dude.
Eric wtf mate, you are one bizzare dude.
When was Bruno ever number 1?
Or Froch? The one defining fight Froch has had, he lost. (although I hope he can get a win soon over Artur)
But he still lost.
Plus the question wasn't who do you think is best in the division. Compare Froch's achievments to even Hayes at Cruiserweight and you'll see there is no way he can be considered a real world champ.
If he wins the super six (which I'm hoping) then he is in with a shout.
the thread is asking who is officially the best in the division and froch isnt "officially"
i dont want to get into the froch kes debate but i think froch won quite comfortably
if he wins the super six there is no doubt, who ever wins the super six has to be considered the best
You & Hammer you mean
Froch isn't the best in the division & you'd struggle to say he was at any point. Look at where he was each time he had a signature win & where his opponents were.
Pascal - Bute having just had a controversial win over Librado Andrade, and with Kessler still out for some time, this is the closest point to Froch being #1, but he had yet to really beat anyone in the Top 10. At this point most still considered Kessler #1 based on his past achievements.
Taylor - Bute erased his questionable win over Andrade with a comprehensive win in the rematch. Andrade was more highly rated than Taylor at this point, not to mention that Taylor was winning the fight going into the 12th. Bute was winning when he stopped Andrade in the 4th.
Dirrell - A victory considered at best questionable by most, with some considering it a robbery. On the same night, Abraham beats Froch's previous opponent far more convincingly. For what it's worth I'd still rate Froch ahead of him after this. A month later Ward shuts out Kessler & moves away with Bute as the clear leader in the division.
Kessler - Froch loses fight on the cards. Most have Kessler winning, some have a Froch win. However, in comparison to the defeat to Ward, Froch falls from being considered the best in the division in any way. Whether you thought he won or not, the fact is Ward was far more convincing in doing so that Froch. Bute fights Edison Miranda & some bald bus driver from Wisconsin.
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