Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
go to weightgaintips.com to see what is possible in regards to lean muscle with the appropriate workout and diet.... And that of course doesn't represent everyone, but if someone is in the gym for a year and seriously only puts on a good 5 pounds of muscle mass in a year, then they are doing something seriously fucking wrong... Overtraining, shit diet, shit workout (high reps/low weight)... So to say it's only realistic to put on 5 pounds of muscle mass a year is just silly...
putting on 5lbs of "lean" muscle in a year for someone over (for arguments sake lets say) 26 would be a very good achievement

by doing a bulk (adding fat too) it is very posible

if you are over 26, I challenge you to try and put on 2lbs of "lean" muscle in a year, that is without adding any fat, i bet you struggle

but dudes, you lot have obviously studied this more than me so you clearly know what you are talking about

just an aditional point, did ariza's journal thingy posted above come out after manny had refused the drugs test?

let me just point out at this point, i have never said manny has or hasnt put on any muscle, as ive said a few times in this thread my original point was to onos suggestion that it is easy to put on lean muscle at that rate