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[erics44]

There seems to be a lot of hate for margarito and perhaps rightly so

there is a history of cheating tho by boxers people seem to love

toney, rjj, hollyfield, mosely

look at rjj,. he was unbeatable, did the change come when he was exposed?

im not trying to start a controvesial thread that might spark some heated debate but i would like to know people's thoughts on the drug cheats

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Innocent Until Apprehended By The Relevant Parties And Proven Guilty*

However the above statement is deemed moot where the words 'Ripped' and 'Fuel' are used in conjunction.

[milmascaras1]

it seems to me that margarito is being bombasted unmercifully by most forumers, and rightfully so. what he did was irreprehensible and in bad taste. but the man did serve his one year suspension and has been given a license to continue to earn a living, and rightfully so. but, where are all these forumers on the steroid cheats? where are they? and please don't tell me what margarito did was worse than steroid cheats because cheating is cheating in my book. i think this, most pundits on this forums are so overwhelmingly in love with pacquiao and have shamelessly indulged themselves with his kool-aid, that they will say anything and everything negative about margarito. that's okay because i was a margarito fan before the scandal and i will continue to support him wholeheartedly for this fight and beyond.

[Youngblood]

dude, apparently you have no idea of the concept of punishment fitting the crime. Murder and jaywalking are both illegal. Should they both have the same punishment? According to you, yes.

Steroid cheats? if caught should be giving a very stiff penalty, maybe even expulsion from the sport permanently. But more so, is loading your gloves with weapons that have been proven to help directly kill people Yes aka Billy Collins/Resto. That was this sports precendence for the bahaviour...and should have been enough of an example to let others know, never again.

[erics44]

dude, apparently you have no idea of the concept of punishment fitting the crime. Murder and jaywalking are both illegal. Should they both have the same punishment? According to you, yes.

Steroid cheats? if caught should be giving a very stiff penalty, maybe even expulsion from the sport permanently. But more so, is loading your gloves with weapons that have been proven to help directly kill people Yes aka Billy Collins/Resto. That was this sports precendence for the bahaviour...and should have been enough of an example to let others know, never again.

duuuuddee

why is it worse?

i had a conversation with another member of the forum just the other day about the affects of steriods, I dont know what they are on a boxer but an average steriod user in the gym will gain 10 - 15% in strength during his steriod cycle

with the right drugs would a boxer be hitting 10-15% harder, and 10-15% faster?

steriod cheats have loaded gloves in my opinion

[milmascaras1]

youngblood,

should murder and attempted murder be given the same sentence? not according to many laws in the world!!!

look, it has never been proven that margarito has ever fought in the ring with loaded gloves. can you prove any instances where he did? he was caught attempting to fight with them.

now i ask you, where is the outcry from these forumers on steroid users?

[Youngblood]

look, this is the typical argument that always break out...and probably what you are looking for in your trolltastic OP. But I aint biting. ITS WORSE. deal with it.

[milmascaras1]

blood,

well let's leave it at that! you've got your opinion and i've got mine. but the fact is this, margarito is back and he'll be making millions of dollars win or lose. i know this eats you up inside but sooner or later you've got to deal with it.

[erics44]

look, this is the typical argument that always break out...and probably what you are looking for in your trolltastic OP. But I aint biting. ITS WORSE. deal with it.

soz dude, no basis for your argument

you cant call me a troll coz ive beaten you in an argument

[Youngblood]

no dude, there is no winning or losing this. just opinions. and I've clearly stated drug cheats should also be considered for expulsion. so you are trolling and nothing more.

[erics44]

no dude, there is no winning or losing this. just opinions. and I've clearly stated drug cheats should also be considered for expulsion. so you are trolling and nothing more.

in what way am i trolling?

just to recap - i said drugs and loaded gloves are the same, you said loaded gloves is worse, i gave you a reason why its the same, you said no its just worse and i am a troll

i would say out of that exchange you are the troll bro

ha, shagging bananas

[Memphis]

I suppose it comes down to intent. If your hands are caked in plaster of paris you are intending to do serious and lasting damage.

Is the intent for a steriod user to do the same? probably not, they are probably looking to get an edge oblivious to the fact that their edge could seriously hurt someone, or magnify whatever risk there was of them seriously hurting someone.

Just my two cents.

[erics44]

I suppose it comes down to intent. If your hands are caked in plaster of paris you are intending to do serious and lasting damage.

Is the intent for a steriod user to do the same? probably not, they are probably looking to get an edge oblivious to the fact that their edge could seriously hurt someone, or magnify whatever risk there was of them seriously hurting someone.

Just my two cents.

i dont buy it dude sorry

margs wanted to increase his power

steriods increase your power

i dont see the diffence

i dont condone either but margarito is hated and hollyfield is loved

[erics44]

ha young blood just negged me "for trolling"

dude, you have to be honourable in defeat as well as in victory

[Youngblood]

there are only 2 types of posts I neg and I do it rarely. spam. and trolling. (well, there is the miles incident...but that is a different story )