cheating

[Memphis]

When you put it that way it makes perfect sense

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

When you put it that way it makes perfect sense

They do come to me every now and then.

[erics44]

Ive been negged by PSL now

a pac man fan not liking a drug cheat thread

interesting

[erics44]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

does it matter which is worse?

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

[brucelee]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

does it matter which is worse?

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

To answer your question based on the feelings of many members here, more people hate Margarito than Holyfield.

Btw, I agree with you regarding the cheating part. Both are cheating and must be scorned. I don't agree, however, with the punishment you would like to impose to both offenses.

People here hate Margarito more because 1) he was caught in flagrante delicto of attempting to cheat 2) there is a probability that he used plaster with his fight against Cotto and the result of that felony/crime caused an apparent damage on Cotto.

[erics44]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

does it matter which is worse?

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

To answer your question based on the feelings of many members here, more people hate Margarito than Holyfield.

Btw, I agree with you regarding the cheating part. Both are cheating and must be scorned. I don't agree, however, with the punishment you would like to impose to both offenses.

People here hate Margarito more because 1) he was caught in flagrante delicto of attempting to cheat 2) there is a probability that he used plaster with his fight against Cotto and the result of that felony/crime caused an apparent damage on Cotto.

i agree man, i like cotto and he was on the verge of superstardon before the margs fight

i have to say i enjoyed the fight, one of my favourites in recent times

did margs win because he had loaded gloves? very possibly

but how many fighters have the drug cheats beaten whilst on drugs?

how much of the RJJ mr invincible was due to the drugs?

roach reckoned margs was using the plaster since the paul willimas fight, from there to cotto how many fights is that? 5 at a guess

how many fights was Roy on drugs for?

[brucelee]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

does it matter which is worse?

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

To answer your question based on the feelings of many members here, more people hate Margarito than Holyfield.

Btw, I agree with you regarding the cheating part. Both are cheating and must be scorned. I don't agree, however, with the punishment you would like to impose to both offenses.

People here hate Margarito more because 1) he was caught in flagrante delicto of attempting to cheat 2) there is a probability that he used plaster with his fight against Cotto and the result of that felony/crime caused an apparent damage on Cotto.

i agree man, i like cotto and he was on the verge of superstardon before the margs fight

i have to say i enjoyed the fight, one of my favourites in recent times

did margs win because he had loaded gloves? very possibly

but how many fighters have the drug cheats beaten whilst on drugs?

how much of the RJJ mr invincible was due to the drugs?

roach reckoned margs was using the plaster since the paul willimas fight, from there to cotto how many fights is that? 5 at a guess

how many fights was Roy on drugs for?

That we don't know.

That's the reason we don't judge unless proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

Sometimes, we also take into consideration the nature of the crime. Margo's crime is seen by many as more heinous and we usually abide by the rule of majority.

I understand your point of view but your debate was going nowhere. As they say it, it is an exercise to futility. LOL.

The kind of cheating Margo did is of different level because as they said it, someone already died because of it. As to the juicing part, I haven't heard/read any news that a fighter died because his opponent was juicing.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

No, your missing the point.

does it matter which is worse?

Yes, absolutely it does. If you take steroids then your taking illegal steps to better your prospects. If you load your gloves, it's done in one simple step. It's a cheaper than cheap shot.

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

I can only assume this relates to fighters who haven't been properly convicted Mosley/ Jones Jnr etc...?

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

Yep, your missing the point again. It's not directly about damage, it's about the measure of illicit short-cuts taken to inflict extra damage.

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

Again, this relates to the balance between accusations and actual convictions.

Boxing could and should do a lot more to enforce anti-doping but regardless, the apparent lack of competence in boxing's anti-doping regime unfortunately cannot rightfully qualify the likes of me & you to judge in it's absence.

[erics44]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

No, your missing the point.

does it matter which is worse?

Yes, absolutely it does. If you take steroids then your taking illegal steps to better your prospects. If you load your gloves, it's done in one simple step. It's a cheaper than cheap shot.

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

I can only assume this relates to fighters who haven't been properly convicted Mosley/ Jones Jnr etc...?

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

Yep, your missing the point again. It's not directly about damage, it's about the measure of illicit short-cuts taken to inflict extra damage.

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

Again, this relates to the balance between accusations and actual convictions.

Boxing could and should do a lot more to enforce anti-doping but regardless, the apparent lack of competence in boxing's anti-doping regime unfortunately cannot rightfully qualify the likes of me & you to judge in it's absence.

does it matter whether its a cheap shot or an expensive way to, improve your prospects?

dude common

its you who is missing the point

drug cheats are cheats, you cant exactly evaluate the advantage it gives you, but you get a big advantage

is it worse than loaded gloves? maybe maybe not, but its still a massive advantage in a fight

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

anyway i think everyone is missing the point

No, your missing the point.

does it matter which is worse?

Yes, absolutely it does. If you take steroids then your taking illegal steps to better your prospects. If you load your gloves, it's done in one simple step. It's a cheaper than cheap shot.

even if its miles worse the drugs cheats still cheated and they are loved

I can only assume this relates to fighters who haven't been properly convicted Mosley/ Jones Jnr etc...?

its easier to invisage plaster in a glove and the extra damage that it can do, its hard to ever tell how much extra drugs can give a fighter, i dont think you can really compare the two but they are both cheating

Yep, your missing the point again. It's not directly about damage, it's about the measure of illicit short-cuts taken to inflict extra damage.

whom hates margs for cheating and loves hollyfield?

Again, this relates to the balance between accusations and actual convictions.

Boxing could and should do a lot more to enforce anti-doping but regardless, the apparent lack of competence in boxing's anti-doping regime unfortunately cannot rightfully qualify the likes of me & you to judge in it's absence.

does it matter whether its a cheap shot or an expensive way to, improve your prospects?

dude common

its you who is missing the point

drug cheats are cheats, you cant exactly evaluate the advantage it gives you, but you get a big advantage

is it worse than loaded gloves? maybe maybe not, but its still a massive advantage in a fight

I actually can't think of the last time I neg repped someone
Your a proper weirdo mate, you need clinical help.


It matters as far as reputation and punishment is concerned.
And as stated before, it's not about evaluating damage, it's about the evaluating the degree of illicit steps taken inflict damage.