cheating

[erics44]

That we don't know.

That's the reason we don't judge unless proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

Sometimes, we also take into consideration the nature of the crime. Margo's crime is seen by many as more heinous and we usually abide by the rule of majority.

I understand your point of view but your debate was going nowhere. As they say it, it is an exercise to futility. LOL.

The kind of cheating Margo did is of different level because as they said it, someone already died because of it. As to the juicing part, I haven't heard/read any news that a fighter died because his opponent was juicing.

someone dying is a fair point

how do we know the externt of the drug problem tho and what affects it has had on fighter's carears and health

i dont think the majority point is fair tho, especially on this forum, because its peoples sporting idols that we are questioning

[erics44]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

[Memphis]

No ones saying that, it was suggested that cheating is cheating is cheating.

It was pointed out by others that it isnt as black and white as that.

Anyone taking drugs is still a cunt.

[erics44]

No ones saying that, it was suggested that cheating is cheating is cheating.

It was pointed out by others that it isnt as black and white as that.

Anyone taking drugs is still a cunt.

isnt as black and white as what?

[Memphis]

No ones saying that, it was suggested that cheating is cheating is cheating.

It was pointed out by others that it isnt as black and white as that.

Anyone taking drugs is still a cunt.

isnt as black and white as what?

Mate are you sure you havent been punched repeatedly in the head with bricks?

[erics44]

No ones saying that, it was suggested that cheating is cheating is cheating.

It was pointed out by others that it isnt as black and white as that.

Anyone taking drugs is still a cunt.

isnt as black and white as what?

Mate are you sure you havent been punched repeatedly in the head with bricks?

look dude, you said it your self, cheating is cheating is cheating

the only thing that isnt black and white is how much drugs they took, and how roided up they were

they still cheated

[amat]

Eric is a pretty good windup I must admit. Not funny, but frustrating. I agree with what Memphis said about INTENT. The intent for loading your gloves is much more sinister then that of using steroids. I still believe both are really bad.

[Nameless]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

[erics44]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

[Nameless]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

[erics44]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

[Nameless]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

Absolutely not. Your ignorance and refusal to admit the facts are just annoying, brass knuckle = potentially lethal weapons, steroids aren't in the same repertoire. Are you trying to say that Luis Resto and Panama Lewis shouldn't have been ban for life for what they did and that a one year suspension like the one Margarito had should have been ok?