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    Default Re: Analysis: Pacquiao - Margarito

    margarito needs to get after pacquiao from the beginning of the first round otherwise the fight is going to get away from him quick. if he smartly cuts off the ring, attacks the body, uses a good jab and throws a variety of punches, he's got a shot. but if he starts off slow like he usually does, it'll be too late and he might even get stopped late. one things for sure, pacquiao is there to be hit. marquez and clottey proved that.

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Jeff Mayweather Expects Weight-Drained Margarito To Fall - Boxing News

    Margarito will be weight drain. Jeff Mayweather and other people have speculated on this ever since Margarito last week look pretty much shredded at 154 and people were wondering how can he make 150 without any negative lingering effects. In fact at today's weigh in he looks really gaunt and not really strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toto View Post
    Unlike thbigger and lethargic Oscar dela Hoya, Manny Pacquaio would be fighting the naturally bigger Antonio Margarito at the catch weight of 150- pound of the Super Welterweight Division

    Antonio has a six and a five reach and height advantages, respectively.

    Could these edged become a factor for an upset for the Filipino pit bull? You judge after you read the following observations.

    PLUSSES

    Margarito



    The Mexican is naturally bigger and arguably stronger than Pacquiao.

    Experts said Manny should be fighting in the lower division of 140.1 lbs - 147 lbs Junior Welterweight where he is effective.

    His celebrated chin could shame the armor of an Abrams Tank. Try to ask Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron on this.

    He is 5’ 11“, while the Filipino is 5’ 6”.

    Is it déjà vu again on November 13 to see a motley David Tua awkwardly doing a “Jumping Jack Flash” against the towering Lennox Lewis? Tua was outclassed in that year 2000 heavyweight fight.



    Pacquiao

    Every time he fights, survivors of Nagasaki atomic bombed blast are either traumatized or have nightmare as they remembered how that more than four tons “Fat Man" bomb born by a B-29 bomber wrought havoc to them in that fateful August of 1945.

    His hands speed would look Jason Statham knife-stabbing prowess a child’s play in the flick “Expendable”

    You ask Democrats Senator Harry Reid of Nevada how violently explosive Congressman Pacquiao is?

    MINUSES



    Margarito

    His go-go styles gives knock-out punchers like Pacquiao a boner.

    His propensity to plunge into enemy’s territory without an effective cover is like a Scud weapon system to a Patriot missile.

    Without the help of “gravestones” wrapped at his hands, the battle field would be “ceteris paribus” (all things are equal except in the male cubicles).

    His reflexes to counter are slow. He has a tendency to lower his left glove from his left face after he unleashed it.



    Pacquiao

    Not as prepared as when he fought Miguel Cotto at the Junior Welterweight Division. To some peasants out there who just learned boxing recently, Cotto was bludgeoned in a technical knock-out by Antonio in the 11th Round in 2008.In that tussles, Miguel’s face looks like the run-away winner of a Halloween Party attended by a staff of a funeral parlor.

    Manny darts his jaw like Jay Leno every time he lunges his straight left punch.

    Consequently, this can be a paper target for a right hook and right upper cut from the opponent.

    After he fired his right jab, he has the tendency to lower his right glove from his right face.



    Must Do

    ,

    Margarito



    He should incessantly use his left long jabs to hit and distract Pacquio not to prepare his left counter punch. He should do these by circling Manny clock-wise.

    Just like what Eric Morales has done in their first fight, a staggered Pacquaio is vulnerable to an accurate punches by bunches.

    When Manny raises his left foot to set his lethal left, Margarito should step back his right foot but see to it he leaves Manny a straight strong right remembrance at the face.

    He can also emulate the turtle-shell like defense of Joshua Clottey as he plowed to Manny. This to be followed by his timely long right straight and his “trademark” left hook swing to the body of the Filipino.

    That kind of defense made Clottey an endorser of Glutathione products that cater for a flawless facial skin.

    In that fight, he was unscathed facially while Pacquiao was transformed from his Tom Cruise-look to that of Walter Matthau.



    Pacquiao


    With a left punch that has a market value of a middleweight; Manny should rumble with the Mexican in close quarter so he could shoot-up with gusto his left uppercut to the usually uncovered hole straight to the chin of Margarito

    Just like what Paul William and Shane Mosley (the ideal opponents that Manny should be fighting in November 13, but who are we to dispute the wisdom of Top Rank’s Bob Father Arum?) have done to the Mexican, Manny should hug Antonio as if he is in Times Square celebrating New Year after he unleashes those blinding Gatling gun’s munitions. He should do this with regularity to undermine the counter punches from the once de facto endorser of Plaster of Paris.
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    LOL you like to use metaphors,, yes??

    Decent analysis... Could not get a fight that epitomizes Strength and Size, vs Speed any more than this one.. They both land a lot and are very attacking... I think speed wins...
    ~ He thinks he's a Tornado,,,... F'ckn real Tornado is comin'...! ~Hidden Content

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    Default Re: Analysis: Pacquiao - Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Jeff Mayweather Expects Weight-Drained Margarito To Fall - Boxing News

    Margarito will be weight drain. Jeff Mayweather and other people have speculated on this ever since Margarito last week look pretty much shredded at 154 and people were wondering how can he make 150 without any negative lingering effects. In fact at today's weigh in he looks really gaunt and not really strong.
    Khan was saying the same thing but he has 24 hours to rehydrate if he hasnt put on much weight by fight time then we know he is weight drained like Oscar but if he is up at 160 he should have enough energy to fight at pace.

    Problem is speed. Both Haye and Pac have come in very light because theyve obviously trained for quickness. They are against guys who are big but very slow so they are banking on otspeeding them which they will.

    Marg is wide with his punches and telepgraphs each one. Pac Is like a rapid fire machine gun straight down the middle and is very quick. This will be the difference all night and its a question of how much Marg can take. His key punch is the uppercut which Clottey caught Pac with many times. If he throws it regularly he may mark Pac up which culd lead to something but the safe bet is Pac darts around Mar and its a blueprint of the Oscar fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Jeff Mayweather Expects Weight-Drained Margarito To Fall - Boxing News

    Margarito will be weight drain. Jeff Mayweather and other people have speculated on this ever since Margarito last week look pretty much shredded at 154 and people were wondering how can he make 150 without any negative lingering effects. In fact at today's weigh in he looks really gaunt and not really strong.
    Khan was saying the same thing but he has 24 hours to rehydrate if he hasnt put on much weight by fight time then we know he is weight drained like Oscar but if he is up at 160 he should have enough energy to fight at pace.

    Problem is speed. Both Haye and Pac have come in very light because theyve obviously trained for quickness. They are against guys who are big but very slow so they are banking on otspeeding them which they will.

    Marg is wide with his punches and telepgraphs each one. Pac Is like a rapid fire machine gun straight down the middle and is very quick. This will be the difference all night and its a question of how much Marg can take. His key punch is the uppercut which Clottey caught Pac with many times. If he throws it regularly he may mark Pac up which culd lead to something but the safe bet is Pac darts around Mar and its a blueprint of the Oscar fight.
    Done and Done... Margarito is a sure bet fitter and sharper than Oscar,,, But Pac has had 4 fights at this weight now and Margarito is going to get all that Oscar got, and then sum,,, right from round one...
    ~ He thinks he's a Tornado,,,... F'ckn real Tornado is comin'...! ~Hidden Content

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    One thing I am worried about marga is his inactivity for almost a year..Hope he is still sharpier as it was b4.

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    I honestly hope Margarito gets his ass thoroughly kicked as he has earned it. I think Tony punches too wide and fights with his head down too much, he's going to get picked apart and Manny will hurt him badly because he has faster hands and throws his puncher straighter.

    Margarito is going to find out that karma is a bitch

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    i wonder what pacquiao is going to do when he hits margarito and tony smiles and comes forward? people act as if margarito doesn't know how to punch. that it's just going to be margarito receiving shots and pacquiao is somehow going to not get hit. reality people, this fight is going to be much closer than you think and margarito is a very live underdog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    i wonder what pacquiao is going to do when he hits margarito and tony smiles and comes forward? people act as if margarito doesn't know how to punch. that it's just going to be margarito receiving shots and pacquiao is somehow going to not get hit. reality people, this fight is going to be much closer than you think and margarito is a very live underdog.
    Pound Margarito's face more and more until the smile comes off.
    But seriously, I also think that it would be a close fight. Margarito would not have gotten the 27 KOs (from the 38 that he won) if he is a bum. But then again, he did fight some bums (like Efrain Munoz).

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    Default Re: Analysis: Pacquiao - Margarito

    corner,

    every fighter has fought bums at some point in their career with the exception of oscar de la hoya. he never fought a fighter with a losing record, ever, and in fact, the worse record any of his opponents had was 13-7. pretty impressive!

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    Default Re: Analysis: Pacquiao - Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    i wonder what pacquiao is going to do when he hits margarito and tony smiles and comes forward? people act as if margarito doesn't know how to punch. that it's just going to be margarito receiving shots and pacquiao is somehow going to not get hit. reality people, this fight is going to be much closer than you think and margarito is a very live underdog.
    Shane hit him, Margarito smiled and got KTFO.

    Pacquiao will do much worst to him. That's the reality.

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    Default Re: Analysis: Pacquiao - Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    corner,

    every fighter has fought bums at some point in their career with the exception of oscar de la hoya. he never fought a fighter with a losing record, ever, and in fact, the worse record any of his opponents had was 13-7. pretty impressive!
    You are right with regards to that.
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    Default Re: Analysis: Pacquiao - Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Jeff Mayweather Expects Weight-Drained Margarito To Fall - Boxing News

    Margarito will be weight drain. Jeff Mayweather and other people have speculated on this ever since Margarito last week look pretty much shredded at 154 and people were wondering how can he make 150 without any negative lingering effects. In fact at today's weigh in he looks really gaunt and not really strong.
    Margarito claimed he was weight drained when he fought Mosley at 147. Two weeks before the fight his weight is down to 154/155. His plan was not to be drained for this fight. His plan was to be lighter and not drained. This is just a BS excuse by people that don't want to see Pacquiao win. Margarito already stated he has no excuses.

    I'm expecting the 1st round to be a little slow from both fighters. The second round I'd expect Pacquiao to pick it up. If Pacquiao's punch is effective and Margarito's not, then I can see Margarito confidence level dropping. If Margarito's punch is effective and it slows Pacquiao pace, even though Pacquiao gets his combination's off, I expect Margarito's confidence to build. By the fifth round, I expect we'll be able to see who is going to pull it off. If we don't see Pacquiao getting off effectively by the fifth round, He'll struggle to take control. Margarito being in top shape, I can't see him being taken out by the 11th round. He's just too big unless he get's caught with a KO shot. I think it is more difficult for Margarito to catch Pacquiao but it can happen. A lot of People think Pacquiao is week to the body, because he was taken out early on in his career by a body shot. He's not, I've seen him take big shots to the body and he's always recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Jeff Mayweather Expects Weight-Drained Margarito To Fall - Boxing News

    Margarito will be weight drain. Jeff Mayweather and other people have speculated on this ever since Margarito last week look pretty much shredded at 154 and people were wondering how can he make 150 without any negative lingering effects. In fact at today's weigh in he looks really gaunt and not really strong.
    Margarito claimed he was weight drained when he fought Mosley at 147. Two weeks before the fight his weight is down to 154/155. His plan was not to be drained for this fight. His plan was to be lighter and not drained. This is just a BS excuse by people that don't want to see Pacquiao win. Margarito already stated he has no excuses.

    I'm expecting the 1st round to be a little slow from both fighters. The second round I'd expect Pacquiao to pick it up. If Pacquiao's punch is effective and Margarito's not, then I can see Margarito confidence level dropping. If Margarito's punch is effective and it slows Pacquiao pace, even though Pacquiao gets his combination's off, I expect Margarito's confidence to build. By the fifth round, I expect we'll be able to see who is going to pull it off. If we don't see Pacquiao getting off effectively by the fifth round, He'll struggle to take control. Margarito being in top shape, I can't see him being taken out by the 11th round. He's just too big unless he get's caught with a KO shot. I think it is more difficult for Margarito to catch Pacquiao but it can happen. A lot of People think Pacquiao is week to the body, because he was taken out early on in his career by a body shot. He's not, I've seen him take big shots to the body and he's always recovered.
    Well probably because complaining that he's not able to load his wraps again would be unacceptable

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