take the tests.

[Hornfinger]

I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

Same old story.

Find a vacant title

Find a bum to fight for it

Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

Get some organization to sanction

Get given a title

Pass a urine test after the fight

I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.

I doubt manny would even care about the trinket titles wbc's been giving boxers willing to "pay" for them.
That being said, I really think margarito was a handpicked opponent before this bout. But that doesn't mean I don't give manny the props that he deserved after dishing out the beating that margo had coming for him. He was after all, still in there with a very game and well conditioned opponent who weighed in 17 pounds heavier than he is. Regardless of how the fight went it's course, how could you not like the class manny showed in and after the fight? For pete's sake he even said boxing is not about killing, it's about entertainment or somewhere along those lines. And he proved it in the 12th round when he could have easily poured in the power punches seeing margo was out of the game for sure.
Now I'm sure you absolutely loathe manny judging from your previous posts, but questioning people for being a fan of manny is absolutely absurd in my book, more so after this fight.
I'd still say he's the underdog if the pbf fight goes through, but really.. really?? You still hate the guy even though he hasn't been proven to be taking any illegal substances and not a squeak from you from the real cheaters of this sport? Wow..

Please tell me how you prove a guy is clean or dirty when that guy refuses to take tests. Answers on a post card.

I believe anyone who ducks a drug test is a cheat. 100%

I can't find ANYTHING about manny pacquiao to like.

[arcanum26]

I wouldn't be surprised if Manny Pacquiao fought Audley Harrison at a 160 pound catch weight for a vacant title.

Same old story.

Find a vacant title

Find a bum to fight for it

Set a catch weight to drain the said bum

Get some organization to sanction

Get given a title

Pass a urine test after the fight

I really am having trouble understanding how anyone is a fan of Pacquiao.

I doubt manny would even care about the trinket titles wbc's been giving boxers willing to "pay" for them.
That being said, I really think margarito was a handpicked opponent before this bout. But that doesn't mean I don't give manny the props that he deserved after dishing out the beating that margo had coming for him. He was after all, still in there with a very game and well conditioned opponent who weighed in 17 pounds heavier than he is. Regardless of how the fight went it's course, how could you not like the class manny showed in and after the fight? For pete's sake he even said boxing is not about killing, it's about entertainment or somewhere along those lines. And he proved it in the 12th round when he could have easily poured in the power punches seeing margo was out of the game for sure.
Now I'm sure you absolutely loathe manny judging from your previous posts, but questioning people for being a fan of manny is absolutely absurd in my book, more so after this fight.
I'd still say he's the underdog if the pbf fight goes through, but really.. really?? You still hate the guy even though he hasn't been proven to be taking any illegal substances and not a squeak from you from the real cheaters of this sport? Wow..

Please tell me how you prove a guy is clean or dirty when that guy refuses to take tests. Answers on a post card.

I believe anyone who ducks a drug test is a cheat. 100%

I can't find ANYTHING about manny pacquiao to like.

The best I can come up with in your lofty standards is suspicion. What I'm trying to say is why are you focusing all your posts here trying to discredit someone who hasn't been proven as a cheat when I have not heard a peep from you questioning margo with the whole hand wraps issue. Now before you shed tears in outright anger thinking I'm defending manny for ducking the tests, don't.. please. Last thing I want to see in a boxing forum is a grown man crying. I'm not saying manny shouldn't be questioned for ducking the tests. But why not give him the benefit of the doubt when you in all likelihood are doing that for margo? I sure haven't seen you calling out margos fans for all the bs he's been doing.

This leads me to believe you've been chased out of one of them filipino boxing forums where some poster hit you right on the chin where it hurts the most and you cried yourself to sleep all night hugging your fluffy pillow.. Sorry if that's the case.

[Hornfinger]

You ducked the question. Prove a guy who runs away from random steroid tests or demands stipulations on them is clean.

[arcanum26]

You ducked the question. Prove a guy who runs away from random steroid tests or demands stipulations on them is clean.

Like I said I'm suspicious about the whole testing issue. I'm not saying manny's guilty, I'm not saying he's not. What I'm trying to say is why are you taking the holier than thou stance when lots of proven cheaters are still getting big paydays and you're not criticizing them? If you're not an absolute hater, prove it.

[CutMeMick]

Hi, hope everyone is well.

Manny is a great pocket punch fighter and he has great stamina, great movement. But he does seem to fight at catchweights and make everyone drain down to his level. Mosely was prepared to fight him two years ago but manny sits on the sidelines and waits for floyd to deal with mosely so now you might see manny fight mosely in late 2011 when he def will be over the hill.

Floyd agreed to his terms of being fined if he comes in over the weight limit..why cant manny agree to his?

I do believe mannys speed and movement will def give floyd some serious problems especially if he is throwing over a thousand punches a fight with power and accuracy,

manny needs to fight paul williams next year and floyd mayweather..if he is victorious then he is the best pound 4 pound. No excuses.

Manny needs? ? ?
Manny don't need shit from Paul.
PBF possibly but not Paul.
Paul fucken lost to "Maravilla" and he'll lose again.
IF and that's a huge if Paul were to beat Maravilla and Pac were to fight Paul & PBF in 2011 and he beats them both not only would he be p4p the best but that IMO would give him a strong case at P4P 1, 2 or 3 all time. No doubt.

[THE THIRD MAN]

The only reason PBF has not fought Manny Pacquiao as yet is because he genuinely believes he is the only man who can beat him. He's stalling, tests? how many tests does he want? If Pacquiao is taking something illegal it would have been discovered by now and he would be out of the game. It's all bullshit and PBF needs to grow some balls and make it happen. It's the only fight left for either fighter IMO and boxing itself needs it more than ever during this lean time for the sport. Just forget the crap and make the fight!

[hardcore_crash]

I never in my life thought Pac was on anything until he refused to take random blood testing.
After that, everyone has to be suspicious.
Oh wait, "Manny doesn't want to give up to Floyd's demands" "Manny has such a big ego he never would do something Floyd told him to."


The biggest egomaniac of them all accepted every single one of Manny's request.
But he is afraid right?

[zhubin]

The only reason PBF has not fought Manny Pacquiao as yet is because he genuinely believes he is the only man who can beat him. He's stalling, tests? how many tests does he want? If Pacquiao is taking something illegal it would have been discovered by now and he would be out of the game. It's all bullshit and PBF needs to grow some balls and make it happen. It's the only fight left for either fighter IMO and boxing itself needs it more than ever during this lean time for the sport. Just forget the crap and make the fight!

You are being very naive about performance enhancing drugs in sports. Blood testing is the most basic way to test...the new exotic drugs can only be detected through muscle biopsy. Boxing's drug testing is hardly the most rigorous. What Floyd's true intentions where by asking Manny to take the tests...we can argue about that. But ultimately...whether he intended to or not...he brings up a valid point. With how widespread PEDs are in sports...athletes should be tested more stringently. pac's response to the whole affair raises suspicion. here is this brave fighter who can stand up to bigger guys than himself...but he is afraid to give blood?! And you think Floyd is scared?! Yeah...watching how stiffs like Clottey and Margo can land on Pac at will...Floyd is terrified. i agree the fight needs to happen. But get prepared for the Pac hype machine to come to a screeching halt.