PAC deserve those props IMO

[miron_lang]

Miron Lang...........talking about Pac?

Shock and awe indeed.

Return of the swarm...............

been here every day. Not posting though...Events and news can speak for themselves

I see you're getting tired of it? its just a day after the fight and you hate it already? People that talk about pac only knows pac right? uLOL

Don't really know what that means.

Miron Lang...........talking about Pac?

Shock and awe indeed.

But I digress, I'll leave you in peace in this thread to rehash the same arguments amongst each other again.

Thank you. That's the best option imo.

Yeah that's the exact same details that 80% of the forum ignores.

[Gandalf]

You can pick at both Floyds and Manny's resumes. The timing of certain opponents is questionable as we all know that a fighter is seldom the same after a brutal stoppage and then to go in with Manny? And with a catchweight? Not wise.

Still, as a fighter you can't argue with the tools that he displays. I think he would stop Marquez at 140 right now. He has got better and is clearly stronger whilst maintaining that speed. I love Marquez and think he won the second fight, but Pac has moved beyond.

[miron_lang]

You can pick at both Floyds and Manny's resumes. The timing of certain opponents is questionable as we all know that a fighter is seldom the same after a brutal stoppage and then to go in with Manny? And with a catchweight? Not wise.

I agree partially. Most of the criticism were made post fight. like with dlh, Hatton, etc.

Actually that dude Killersheep has a point, these things are getting tiring. maybe its better if we're debating on who actually won instead of weighing legacies

[Julius Rain]

No one including floyd will be near Pac in boxings historic legends.

I've been saying this shit since 2003!

[KananKrus]

Hesiquio Balderas of BoxingScene.com quotes

MAB, Marco Antonio Barrera...

''Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world. Usually a good big man will always beat a good little man, but Pacquiao is a great little man. It is amazing how he can go up in weight and beat all of these huge guys,'' said the former three time world champion Barrera.
''I wanted Margarito to win. I mean my heart was with him and I thought he had a pretty good chance, but after Pacquiao cut him - I knew it was over. Manny is a gentleman, because he had Tony hurt in the 10th round and he could have finish him, but he let Tony survive. He showed his class and that is why he is the best. I am not ashamed to be on his list of victims because he is great,'' Barrera concluded.

Barrera: Manny Pacquiao is The Best Fighter in The World - Boxing News

[Hornfinger]

pac will get props from me when.....

He stops being given 'vacant belts'

Stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

Stops trying to weight drain opponants

Takes a steroid test

Stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

He will get massive props from me if he does that.

[KananKrus]

pac will get props from me when.....

He stops being given 'vacant belts'

Stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

Stops trying to weight drain opponants

Takes a steroid test

Stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

He will get massive props from me if he does that.

Obviously, the standards you've set shames that of Marco's. You are... incredible!

[Julius Rain]

pac will get props from me when.....

He stops being given 'vacant belts'

Stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

Stops trying to weight drain opponants

Takes a steroid test

Stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

He will get massive props from me if he does that.

Props from you is not highly regarded, so who gives a fuck!

[:::PSL:::]

pac will get props from me when.....

1. He stops being given 'vacant belts'

2. Stops fighting at catch weights to his advantage

3. Stops trying to weight drain opponants

4. Takes a steroid test

5. Stops fighting shot/damaged/past it/josh clottey average fighters

He will get massive props from me if he does that.

1. He KOed the defending champ Chatchai Sasakul for Lineal title.
He KOed the defending Lehlohonolo Ledwaba for IBF with only 2 weeks preparation.
He KOed the defending champ Barrera for lineal title.
He won a decision against defending champ Marquez lineal title.
He KOed the defending paper champ (first test against naturally bigger men) Diaz for WBC title.
He KOed the defending champ Hatton for fourth lineal title.
He KOed the defending champ Cotto for WBO title.
It's funny how you make it sound like he's been given vacant belt before the Margarito fight.

2. They maybe catchweights but if you wipe Floyd's cum off your eyes, you will see clear that the weight differences are not that big deal.

3. I partially agree with you on that. He fought a weight-drained morales in their third bout. He fought a weight-drained DLH too. But 28 out of 30 boxing writers picked DLH to massacre Pac, but look what happened?

4. He's been taking steroid (blood) test. 20 days before the fight. That's a fact. Mayweather took 18 days before the fight against Mosely.

5. If Hatton was a B level fighter, then Clottey must be A level.

Stop hating asshole

tsk!

[generalbulldog]

Hesiquio Balderas of BoxingScene.com quotes

MAB, Marco Antonio Barrera...

''Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world. Usually a good big man will always beat a good little man, but Pacquiao is a great little man. It is amazing how he can go up in weight and beat all of these huge guys,'' said the former three time world champion Barrera.
''I wanted Margarito to win. I mean my heart was with him and I thought he had a pretty good chance, but after Pacquiao cut him - I knew it was over. Manny is a gentleman, because he had Tony hurt in the 10th round and he could have finish him, but he let Tony survive. He showed his class and that is why he is the best. I am not ashamed to be on his list of victims because he is great,'' Barrera concluded.

Barrera: Manny Pacquiao is The Best Fighter in The World - Boxing News

As Tysonbruno, Hornfinger, and Taeth will say, "Marco Antonio Barrera knows shit about boxing. Who is this motherfucker to talk?"

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Hesiquio Balderas of BoxingScene.com quotes

MAB, Marco Antonio Barrera...

''Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter in the world. Usually a good big man will always beat a good little man, but Pacquiao is a great little man. It is amazing how he can go up in weight and beat all of these huge guys,'' said the former three time world champion Barrera.
''I wanted Margarito to win. I mean my heart was with him and I thought he had a pretty good chance, but after Pacquiao cut him - I knew it was over. Manny is a gentleman, because he had Tony hurt in the 10th round and he could have finish him, but he let Tony survive. He showed his class and that is why he is the best. I am not ashamed to be on his list of victims because he is great,'' Barrera concluded.

Barrera: Manny Pacquiao is The Best Fighter in The World - Boxing News

As Tysonbruno, Hornfinger, and Taeth will say, "Marco Antonio Barrera knows shit about boxing. Who is this motherfucker to talk?"

Marco Antonio Barrera had been in the ring and had gone through a lot of wars in a ring. Had anyone in this forum done anything even comparable to what Barrera did? If yes, then maybe you can criticize him. If not, then who are we to say that.