Did that fight really make people believe that Manny will be able to beat Floyd?

[generalbulldog]

TysonBruno's post makes the most sense and still is the best post in this thread. Fact.

[fan johnny]

I think, Mayweather is the best P4P 'defensive' fighter or this era and Pacquiao is the best P4P 'offensive' fighter of this era. They both have amazing resumes. Pacquiao's status continues to grow beyond that of Mayweather each time he steps into the ring. Mayweather is not exactly doing the same thing to his status.

I've thought Pacquiao would beat Mayweather on points before his fight with Margarito and still think he would do so if they ever the two get into the ring. The shots pacquiao took from Margarito were huge and he weathered them. I can't see Floyd slowing down Pacquiao even with his best pot shot. The thing is, Mayweather plays to the level of his competition. In order to win against Pacquiao, he would have to step up his game to another level. He cannot win against Pacquiao throwing 29 punches a round even, with 70% accuracy, hoping to reduce to Pacquiao's accuracy down lower than 30%.

Can you see Mayweather doing what he did to Mosley against Pacquiao? Mosley had absolutely no gas from the 3rd round on. What Pacquiao did against Margarito, should convince anyone that Mayweather's game plan against Mosley won't be what he uses against Pacquiao. Marquez is a completely different story. So your guess is as good as mine as to what strategy he'll use against Pacquiao. What ever does, it won't be easy.

[mafiajoey]

Pac's ball cuppers/nut huggers spend more time thinking about Floyd then anything else. Obsessed would be an understatement. We all know Floyds a punk out of the ring. I saw the guys Twitter and almost puked and found myself on the verge of hate like a Pacman ball cupper but you got to separate in ring from out of ring. Floyd did this to himself with his crappy ego...if Floyd was the quiet caucasian male then People who hold Manny's balls couldn't use the "Floyd excuse/duck Theory" instead they would be telling Manny to man up and take the damn test.

[generalbulldog]

Pac's ball cuppers/nut huggers spend more time thinking about Floyd then anything else. Obsessed would be an understatement. We all know Floyds a punk out of the ring. I saw the guys Twitter and almost puked and found myself on the verge of hate like a Pacman ball cupper but you got to separate in ring from out of ring. Floyd did this to himself with his crappy ego...if Floyd was the quiet caucasian male then People who hold Manny's balls couldn't use the "Floyd excuse/duck Theory" instead they would be telling Manny to man up and take the damn test.

I know what you mean. If Floyd was caucasian everything would be smooth and cool. But the man is keeping him down. I mean take a look at Wlad and Vitali getting big time HBO PPV fights and being respected by boxing fans because they're caucasian males...................oh wait never mind.

[mafiajoey]

Pac's ball cuppers/nut huggers spend more time thinking about Floyd then anything else. Obsessed would be an understatement. We all know Floyds a punk out of the ring. I saw the guys Twitter and almost puked and found myself on the verge of hate like a Pacman ball cupper but you got to separate in ring from out of ring. Floyd did this to himself with his crappy ego...if Floyd was the quiet caucasian male then People who hold Manny's balls couldn't use the "Floyd excuse/duck Theory" instead they would be telling Manny to man up and take the damn test.

I know what you mean. If Floyd was caucasian everything would be smooth and cool. But the man is keeping him down. I mean take a look at Wlad and Vitali getting big time HBO PPV fights and being respected by boxing fans because they're caucasian males...................oh wait never mind.

I'm white, I wasn't implying the man was keeping him down. You took it out of context...I was simply stating if he was white and kept his fat trap shut and acted normal then we wouldn't have all this crap. But it's easy for everyone to hate on him but gues what? As much as I like the stupid f$#k he did this to himself. Some people want to play bigshot. Others keep there mouths shut and then it doesn't bite them later.

Point blank.....I think Pac is bullshittin but we know no matter who it is or what it is people will hate on Floyd. We also know he did it to himself. His parents should have said...."don't open your mouth" but his dad had his yappin first.

[generalbulldog]

Pac's ball cuppers/nut huggers spend more time thinking about Floyd then anything else. Obsessed would be an understatement. We all know Floyds a punk out of the ring. I saw the guys Twitter and almost puked and found myself on the verge of hate like a Pacman ball cupper but you got to separate in ring from out of ring. Floyd did this to himself with his crappy ego...if Floyd was the quiet caucasian male then People who hold Manny's balls couldn't use the "Floyd excuse/duck Theory" instead they would be telling Manny to man up and take the damn test.

I know what you mean. If Floyd was caucasian everything would be smooth and cool. But the man is keeping him down. I mean take a look at Wlad and Vitali getting big time HBO PPV fights and being respected by boxing fans because they're caucasian males...................oh wait never mind.

I'm white, I wasn't implying the man was keeping him down. You took it out of context...I was simply stating if he was white and kept his fat trap shut and acted normal then we wouldn't have all this crap. But it's easy for everyone to hate on him but gues what? As much as I like the stupid f$#k he did this to himself. Some people want to play bigshot. Others keep there mouths shut and then it doesn't bite them later.

Point blank.....I think Pac is bullshittin but we know no matter who it is or what it is people will hate on Floyd. We also know he did it to himself. His parents should have said...."don't open your mouth" but his dad had his yappin first.

Nope, I didn't take it out of context. You were pretty much saying that if Floyd was white and kept his mouth shut everything would be okay.

Vitali and Wlad are white and keep their mouth shuts. And they get criticized for being cowards, bums, and duckers. They don't even fight on HBO.

Being a quiet caucasian male sure didn't help them did it?

[El Kabong]

Being a quiet caucasian male sure didn't help them did it?

...it sure as fuck doesn't do any favors for me

[fan johnny]

Pac's ball cuppers/nut huggers spend more time thinking about Floyd then anything else. Obsessed would be an understatement. We all know Floyds a punk out of the ring. I saw the guys Twitter and almost puked and found myself on the verge of hate like a Pacman ball cupper but you got to separate in ring from out of ring. Floyd did this to himself with his crappy ego...if Floyd was the quiet caucasian male then People who hold Manny's balls couldn't use the "Floyd excuse/duck Theory" instead they would be telling Manny to man up and take the damn test.

I know what you mean. If Floyd was caucasian everything would be smooth and cool. But the man is keeping him down. I mean take a look at Wlad and Vitali getting big time HBO PPV fights and being respected by boxing fans because they're caucasian males...................oh wait never mind.

I'm white, I wasn't implying the man was keeping him down. You took it out of context...I was simply stating if he was white and kept his fat trap shut and acted normal then we wouldn't have all this crap. But it's easy for everyone to hate on him but gues what? As much as I like the stupid f$#k he did this to himself. Some people want to play bigshot. Others keep there mouths shut and then it doesn't bite them later.

Point blank.....I think Pac is bullshittin but we know no matter who it is or what it is people will hate on Floyd. We also know he did it to himself. His parents should have said...."don't open your mouth" but his dad had his yappin first.

You mean like a white Shane Mosley? I don't think it has a damn thing to do with the color of his skin. It's just his character. Look at Malignaggi...

[mafiajoey]

You guys know what the fuck I mean...take Pacs uncut foreskin from your bicuspids. Race is always an issue. Ignore it all you want...Same reason people didn't like Roy

[donnydarkoIRL]

I would nearly go as far as to say that boxing is the sport in which race and origin matters least. If you put a truly great fighter in front of boxing fans, they will not judge him by race, colour or creed.

Azumah Nelson is one of the most respected fighters globally. Carlos Monzon is revered as one of the greatest Middleweights ever, despite his fatal flaws. Max Schmeling is commonly perceived as one of the sports finest gentlemen. Pac comes from a country not even known for its boxing and is idolised by the boxing faithful. I don't think race is applicable at all. Its attitude.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

You guys know what the fuck I mean...take Pacs uncut foreskin from your bicuspids. Race is always an issue. Ignore it all you want...Same reason people didn't like Roy

For YOU.

Don't judge others by your own failings.

[Nameless]

Pac's ball cuppers/nut huggers spend more time thinking about Floyd then anything else. Obsessed would be an understatement. We all know Floyds a punk out of the ring. I saw the guys Twitter and almost puked and found myself on the verge of hate like a Pacman ball cupper but you got to separate in ring from out of ring. Floyd did this to himself with his crappy ego...if Floyd was the quiet caucasian male then People who hold Manny's balls couldn't use the "Floyd excuse/duck Theory" instead they would be telling Manny to man up and take the damn test.

I know what you mean. If Floyd was caucasian everything would be smooth and cool. But the man is keeping him down. I mean take a look at Wlad and Vitali getting big time HBO PPV fights and being respected by boxing fans because they're caucasian males...................oh wait never mind.

I'm white, I wasn't implying the man was keeping him down. You took it out of context...I was simply stating if he was white and kept his fat trap shut and acted normal then we wouldn't have all this crap. But it's easy for everyone to hate on him but gues what? As much as I like the stupid f$#k he did this to himself. Some people want to play bigshot. Others keep there mouths shut and then it doesn't bite them later.

Point blank.....I think Pac is bullshittin but we know no matter who it is or what it is people will hate on Floyd. We also know he did it to himself. His parents should have said...."don't open your mouth" but his dad had his yappin first.

Race has absolutely nothing to do here, it's all about the behaviors, Scott Harrison was fairly popular before he started to act like a dick and he's white as, people just don't like his antics and the fact that his whole family (at least, father and uncle) are like that doesn't help neither, he could be smurf blue or snow white, it wouldn't change at all and it would all be the same reaction. Gatti was loved by all but the last antics with his ex wife made him lose some support and some respect along the way, including in Montreal where he's more or less a living legend, being white didn't save his ass.