Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post

I think Floyds opponents and apparent circumstance in those fights are more of a joke. But even if you can take away these bits and pieces from the fights... HOW did Pac win? He came in there and TOOK the title from the opponents. Sorry but Baldomir Vs Mayweather will never go down as the "linear/unified title" being passed down. Not the same one that SRL, Starling, RayRob or Benitez fought for anyway.

With regards to Cotto and Clottey (highlighted): How can you draw a comparison by using one guys "near loss" to another guys "clear win"? Pick one way or the other. If that ain't straddling the fence I dunno what is..

Pac just proved he would take a paycheck that Mayweather was not willing to cash years ago. And I truly believe Margarito is a better fighter than he was 3-5 years ago. Marg would have been out in 3-4 back then against Pac.


My favorite thing about Pac Margarito? ... Roach said he would knock Marg out in the 3rd and he almost did (in the 4th). THAT is something you could definitely count Mayweather out of being about to do. And I think few people on here took Roach seriously when he said that.
Haha dude, I really have to wonder what Floyd did to you? Are you Josie Harris or that security guard he 'battered' with his finger? Even the Pacfans, Miles & Titofan don't hate him as much as you.

As it is, no matter how much you may dislike it, the lineal Welterweight title Floyd took from Baldomir was the SAME one that SRL, SRR, Starling & Benitez fought for. If it makes you feel better he took it for a 2nd time off Shane, so at least one of those has to count for you (unless you follow the less credible lineage of Ring mag).

I love the idea that Margarito is better now than 3-5 years ago. Yep, one-sided losses to both Shane & Manny as well as an unimpressive win over a club fighter in Robert Garcia really support that theory

Your favourite thing was that they said they would knock him out but didn't

Was your favourite thing about the PBF-Shane fight that Ellerbe said he'd stop him & Floyd staggered him a couple of times, but didn't put him down or away?

I simply can't get how because people like one fighter or dislike another they mock either's accomplishments. Both these guys actually do have resumes that at least stand up against the best to ever do it, and in 10 years when people are whinging about the dominance of Rau'shee Warren or whoever is on top then, they'll be harking back to these two in the same way people hark back to the Duran, SRL, Hearns era.

I have noticed that every time one of them fights there are dozens of posters who cannot see how they live with the other. In all honesty, it's close I could see a win for either although my gut sees a win for Mayweather by decision.