Pacman vs Sergio Martinez?

[Rantcatrat]

I think Pac should stay at 147.

Stay at 147? He's only had 2 fights at 147. Josh clottey who was a none puncher and was coming off a defeat and de la hoya who pretty much had to cut off an arm to get on the scales.. Cotto was a 145 catch weight. That is not 147.

You could argue about margarito.... but that was meant to be a light middleweight fight, but it wasn't because it was set at 150.

If he wants to fight Martinez do it at 160 or not at all.

i'm sick of this bullshit. There's only one weightclass. Manny pacquiao weightclass. You work out the manny pacquiao weightclass by deducting 4-5 pounds off the weight you are comfortabley stong and fit at.

I disagree although I prefer non-catchweight fights too. Even at a catchweight though, I would give Manny more credit for beating Martinez at 157 for a 160 pound belt than beating Marquez/Bradley/Shane at 147. That's different from saying he is the outright middleweight champion of the world because he only won it at 157, but beating Martinez to me is more of an accomplishment. May just be me.

[killersheep]

Perhaps we should see the result of Martinez/Williams II this weekend before even considering it.

[Rantcatrat]

Perhaps we should see the result of Martinez/Williams II this weekend before even considering it.

This is true.

[Hornfinger]

I think Pac should stay at 147.

Stay at 147? He's only had 2 fights at 147. Josh clottey who was a none puncher and was coming off a defeat and de la hoya who pretty much had to cut off an arm to get on the scales.. Cotto was a 145 catch weight. That is not 147.

You could argue about margarito.... but that was meant to be a light middleweight fight, but it wasn't because it was set at 150.

If he wants to fight Martinez do it at 160 or not at all.

i'm sick of this bullshit. There's only one weightclass. Manny pacquiao weightclass. You work out the manny pacquiao weightclass by deducting 4-5 pounds off the weight you are comfortabley stong and fit at.

I disagree although I prefer non-catchweight fights too. Even at a catchweight though, I would give Manny more credit for beating Martinez at 157 for a 160 pound belt than beating Marquez/Bradley/Shane at 147. That's different from saying he is the outright middleweight champion of the world because he only won it at 157, but beating Martinez to me is more of an accomplishment. May just be me.

Can't agree. To me it's saying 'I can't beat this guy unless I handicap him in some way'.