B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

[:::PSL:::]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

[:::PSL:::]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.

And you forgot to mention floyd's been a champ for 12 years.

[:::PSL:::]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.

And you forgot to mention floyd's been a champ for 12 years.

and you forgot to mention he's part time fighter and temporary retired for almost 2 years.

[TitoFan]

Wow! This thread sure has brought out some raw emotions in people. Well, if there's anything we can all agree on, it's the following:

1. Hopkins is an ATG middleweight, but he says some pretty idiotic things. Is he racist? Maybe. Then again, maybe he just says those stupid things to create controversy and piss people off. Is he a jackass? Pretty much. Hopkins fans need to get a grip. He might be an ATG, but he's still an idiot.

2. We got a lot of hardcore nationalistic fans on this forum (count me among them). That's not a BAD thing, well.... it IS when it interferes with your objectiveness. Of course, I don't let that happen to me. I'm ALWAYS objective (ha ha).

3. Some countries just have a better boxing history and record than others. That's just a fact. Nothing personal, nothing racist about it. Just a plain fact. Like Brazil having the best soccer history in the World Cup. You know... stuff like that. Facts are facts.

and finally...

4. This place is a lot more fun when there's a lot of arguing and trash-talking going on.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

That's why we should appreciate what Manny has done until it last. Other excellent and great boxers will rise after Pacquiao fades but there will only be one MANNY PACQUIAO.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

That's why we should appreciate what Manny has done until it last. Other excellent and great boxers will rise after Pacquiao fades but there will only be one MANNY PACQUIAO.

There will only be one of any fighter. It just means that his country may start to develop younger fighters as amateurs and form an olympic boxing team. And they wont have to worry about being kayoed as teenagers.