B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

[Master]

Last time I looked Clottey was a black fighter.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

[:::PSL:::]

$$$$$$ He just wanna fight Manny $$$$$$

[:::PSL:::]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

[:::PSL:::]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.

[Julius Rain]

Like the homie O said,

Pac got no problem fighting Africans . He gave Dominicans a try. But he got his ass whooped and almost started to cry. So he never went back. Thus the ducking of Joan Guzman.

He hasn't attempted Cubans or African Americans at all, at least not anyone we know. Picking David Diaz over Joel Casamayor and Nate Campbell (the real Champions) was just shameful. His fanbase excuse doesn't even work there. Both clearly trump David fukkin Diaz.

It must really be hard on you that another ES-A joined the victim list.

Must be hard on you that a juiced up Flipa is all you got. Oh the list of fails is long. Nonito Donaire is a sham. Rey Bautista transformed into Rey Bumtista. Marvin Sonsona turned out to be a joke. Z Gorress can't even spell his first name any more. Bernabe Concepcion is crap. Donnie Nietes is overrated. Aj Banal has no heart. And Ciso Morales sure did live up to his name Kid Terrible when he crashed and burned in 2 minutes. Damn. It really does suck when Rodel Mayol is the 2nd best fighter ya'll got.

Still a bitter racist pig VD?

Till the day i die.

I mean no. Course not

VD is no racist, how dare we accuse this man of such.

The man is too retarded to know how to be racist.

Quality over Quantity buddy, I dont give a damn if no other filipino gets a title belt. We got the G.O.A.T.

[ICB]

I'd actually be more interested in Manny Pacquiao fighting the winner of Timothy Bradley/Devon Alexander, or Andre Berto. Than someone like Shane Mosley or my boy JMM, i can see Berto or Bradley giving Manny Pacquiao atleast some problems.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.

And you forgot to mention floyd's been a champ for 12 years.

[:::PSL:::]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.

and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...

and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.

And you forgot to mention floyd's been a champ for 12 years.

and you forgot to mention he's part time fighter and temporary retired for almost 2 years.

[Gandalf]

Hopkins: "When Will Pacquiao Face a Top Black Fighter?" - Boxing News

The article is about how Hopkins says that Pac don't fight top black fighters, as in African Americans with that slick style. You know like the Ray Leonard style that B-Hop was talking about.

BTW, just in case someone brings up Lebwaba and Clottey, they aren't african americans. And I think when B-Hop is talking about a top black fighter, he means black american.

I think the word "top" excludes Clottey even if he is as black as they come. He's Ghanaian btw for the person who said he was Nigerian.

Cotto destroyed Chop Corley, Judah and beat Mosely(Inner City Blacks).
Cotto losed to Pac, can that be counted?

Wtf is an Inner City Black, you know where Shane Mosley is from? I'll give you a hint, it ain't the ghetto. Retard

This was racist

Considering that you get so worked up about people throwing ideas of racism about on other threads Miles, it's quite interesting that you think this is racist. It's stupid & shows Hopkins up for the knob he is, but there's nothing racist about it. I think Memphis' post pretty much sums it up. Unless Hopkins is angling for a fight with Pac at a catchweight. Which I wouldn't put past him

Yes, the Calzaghe comment was quite racist, this one was more ignorance and stupidity. That's right. Hopkins/Pac at a catchweight. Haha, what a freak show!

[TitoFan]

Wow! This thread sure has brought out some raw emotions in people. Well, if there's anything we can all agree on, it's the following:

1. Hopkins is an ATG middleweight, but he says some pretty idiotic things. Is he racist? Maybe. Then again, maybe he just says those stupid things to create controversy and piss people off. Is he a jackass? Pretty much. Hopkins fans need to get a grip. He might be an ATG, but he's still an idiot.

2. We got a lot of hardcore nationalistic fans on this forum (count me among them). That's not a BAD thing, well.... it IS when it interferes with your objectiveness. Of course, I don't let that happen to me. I'm ALWAYS objective (ha ha).

3. Some countries just have a better boxing history and record than others. That's just a fact. Nothing personal, nothing racist about it. Just a plain fact. Like Brazil having the best soccer history in the World Cup. You know... stuff like that. Facts are facts.

and finally...

4. This place is a lot more fun when there's a lot of arguing and trash-talking going on.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

That's why we should appreciate what Manny has done until it last. Other excellent and great boxers will rise after Pacquiao fades but there will only be one MANNY PACQUIAO.

[JonesJrMayweather]

titleist,

i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!

all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears!

What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.

It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.

Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.

The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.

He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...

Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.

But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.

That's why we should appreciate what Manny has done until it last. Other excellent and great boxers will rise after Pacquiao fades but there will only be one MANNY PACQUIAO.

There will only be one of any fighter. It just means that his country may start to develop younger fighters as amateurs and form an olympic boxing team. And they wont have to worry about being kayoed as teenagers.