Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.

Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.

I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
Yeah but whose to say that fashion, or enjoyable food are more acceptable reasons to kill animals?

At the end of the day EVERY single animal death in the Western World at least is a result of entertainment, the pleasure of a nice leather sofa, the latest trendy trainers, the tastiest burger, its all about entertainment.

Myself I would never want to watch two animals kill each other, but on the other hand I was perfectly happy for somebody else to kill a bunch of cows on my behalf so I could enjoy my nice leather Italian design sofa.

I was also perfectly happy for KFC to kill some animal (probably not a chicken :P) so I could enjoy my Zinger Tower Burger at the weekend.

We are all guilty, there is no one blameless.
Yes because you USE the animal which is better than just killing them for no reason whatsoever