GR8 Britain vs The World - Khan v Maidana - Chisora v Klitschko..... etc

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Khon will never be in a 50/50 fight, he will out speed Maidana to a lop sided UD or stop him after 7 or 8 rounds just depends how much Madaina can take, his next fight will probably be an over the hill Jmm Marques @ 140 and he will then be a legend beater LOL.

The same JMM who has just beaten the living piss out of one of the best fighters at 135, before stopping him? The same JMM who holds stoppage wins over Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135?

I can't believe so many people have decided JMM can't compete at 140

Well to be honest, beating the top guys at 1 division doesn't mean the fighter will be a force at another higher division. Boxing history is littered with numerous examples. For example Oscar was very good at 154 but when he moved up to 160 he struggled mightily against Sturm and even got knockout by Hopkins, another example is Darchniyan was very good at 115 but looked like crap at 118 or Hatton was very good at 140 but struggle pretty much at 147. So it's not a given that JMM will be able to compete or be a dominant force at 140 just because he was very good at 135, and let's not forget he is 37.

That's a fair point, but the sport is also littered with fighters who have made the jump without any problems.
Hatton was poor at welterweight for two reasons. Both times he fought slick fighters who would have troubled him/beaten him at light-welter. He also has a style which requires him to bully his opponent, and use his strength to overwhelm his opponent. It's harder to do that to bigger guys.

Marquez is a totally different fighter. He is very accurate and he's an excellent counter puncher. He doesn't really rely on his physicality to over power his opponents. He also has a very good chin, and despite being 37 years old, he isn't really showing any signs of slowing down. He'd be a much more dangerous opponent for Khan than anyone else at Light-Welter...with the possible exception of Bradley.

Out of interest who would you pick to beat Marquez at 140?

You're right in that the sport is littered with guys making the jump without any problems, but those guys are usually young or in their physical prime, not in their late 30s. JMM is 37. That is a very advance age not only in boxing but any sport, guys moving up in weight at an advance age do not dominate or are very competitive at the new weight class, someone might bring up Hopkins but those scenarios are the exception and not the rule.

Who would I pick to beat JMM at 140. Pac, Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Maidana.

But you don't know that Marquez isn't an exception to the rule. Given his effectiveness at lightweight, i'd say there's a good chance that he is. I'm genuinley astonished that you'd make Alexander and Maidana favourites if they were to face Marquez.

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Khon will never be in a 50/50 fight, he will out speed Maidana to a lop sided UD or stop him after 7 or 8 rounds just depends how much Madaina can take, his next fight will probably be an over the hill Jmm Marques @ 140 and he will then be a legend beater LOL.

The same JMM who has just beaten the living piss out of one of the best fighters at 135, before stopping him? The same JMM who holds stoppage wins over Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135?

I can't believe so many people have decided JMM can't compete at 140

Well to be honest, beating the top guys at 1 division doesn't mean the fighter will be a force at another higher division. Boxing history is littered with numerous examples. For example Oscar was very good at 154 but when he moved up to 160 he struggled mightily against Sturm and even got knockout by Hopkins, another example is Darchniyan was very good at 115 but looked like crap at 118 or Hatton was very good at 140 but struggle pretty much at 147. So it's not a given that JMM will be able to compete or be a dominant force at 140 just because he was very good at 135, and let's not forget he is 37.

That's a fair point, but the sport is also littered with fighters who have made the jump without any problems.
Hatton was poor at welterweight for two reasons. Both times he fought slick fighters who would have troubled him/beaten him at light-welter. He also has a style which requires him to bully his opponent, and use his strength to overwhelm his opponent. It's harder to do that to bigger guys.

Marquez is a totally different fighter. He is very accurate and he's an excellent counter puncher. He doesn't really rely on his physicality to over power his opponents. He also has a very good chin, and despite being 37 years old, he isn't really showing any signs of slowing down. He'd be a much more dangerous opponent for Khan than anyone else at Light-Welter...with the possible exception of Bradley.

Out of interest who would you pick to beat Marquez at 140?

You're right in that the sport is littered with guys making the jump without any problems, but those guys are usually young or in their physical prime, not in their late 30s. JMM is 37. That is a very advance age not only in boxing but any sport, guys moving up in weight at an advance age do not dominate or are very competitive at the new weight class, someone might bring up Hopkins but those scenarios are the exception and not the rule.

Who would I pick to beat JMM at 140. Pac, Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Maidana.

But you don't know that Marquez isn't an exception to the rule. Given his effectiveness at lightweight, i'd say there's a good chance that he is. I'm genuinley astonished that you'd make Alexander and Maidana favourites if they were to face Marquez.

I'd favour those guys to beat JMM too at 140. Heck, I'd pick Guerrero ("the quitter") over JMM at 135, seriously.

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Khon will never be in a 50/50 fight, he will out speed Maidana to a lop sided UD or stop him after 7 or 8 rounds just depends how much Madaina can take, his next fight will probably be an over the hill Jmm Marques @ 140 and he will then be a legend beater LOL.

The same JMM who has just beaten the living piss out of one of the best fighters at 135, before stopping him? The same JMM who holds stoppage wins over Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135?

I can't believe so many people have decided JMM can't compete at 140

Well to be honest, beating the top guys at 1 division doesn't mean the fighter will be a force at another higher division. Boxing history is littered with numerous examples. For example Oscar was very good at 154 but when he moved up to 160 he struggled mightily against Sturm and even got knockout by Hopkins, another example is Darchniyan was very good at 115 but looked like crap at 118 or Hatton was very good at 140 but struggle pretty much at 147. So it's not a given that JMM will be able to compete or be a dominant force at 140 just because he was very good at 135, and let's not forget he is 37.

That's a fair point, but the sport is also littered with fighters who have made the jump without any problems.
Hatton was poor at welterweight for two reasons. Both times he fought slick fighters who would have troubled him/beaten him at light-welter. He also has a style which requires him to bully his opponent, and use his strength to overwhelm his opponent. It's harder to do that to bigger guys.

Marquez is a totally different fighter. He is very accurate and he's an excellent counter puncher. He doesn't really rely on his physicality to over power his opponents. He also has a very good chin, and despite being 37 years old, he isn't really showing any signs of slowing down. He'd be a much more dangerous opponent for Khan than anyone else at Light-Welter...with the possible exception of Bradley.

Out of interest who would you pick to beat Marquez at 140?

You're right in that the sport is littered with guys making the jump without any problems, but those guys are usually young or in their physical prime, not in their late 30s. JMM is 37. That is a very advance age not only in boxing but any sport, guys moving up in weight at an advance age do not dominate or are very competitive at the new weight class, someone might bring up Hopkins but those scenarios are the exception and not the rule.

Who would I pick to beat JMM at 140. Pac, Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Maidana.

But you don't know that Marquez isn't an exception to the rule. Given his effectiveness at lightweight, i'd say there's a good chance that he is. I'm genuinley astonished that you'd make Alexander and Maidana favourites if they were to face Marquez.

I'd favour those guys to beat JMM too at 140. Heck, I'd pick Guerrero ("the quitter") over JMM at 135, seriously.

Haha i think you've been hitting that A-Side Meth