Andre Ward Wasn't That Impressive vs Sakio Bika.

[Master]

I thought Andre was the new Roy Jones but he is not that good but he is the best super middle at this moment in time.

[amat]

Master you aren't alone in thinking he was the new Roy Jones, Andre Ward thought he was the new Roy Jones too. I've seen a ton of Ward fights coming up the untelevised ones too and he would alwaaays taunt and keep his hands down and just act like a fool. Then suddenly he just got smarter around the time he fought Jerson Ravelo and now he is what he is today. I give respect to the Goosens and Virgil Hunter for bringing him up the right way, not rushing him along early when he just wasn't ready because I can assure you he wasn't. He knows it too.

As for his fight with Bika, it kind of goes both ways. He won more rounds imo then Bute did. People forget that after 6 rounds of the Bute bout it was damn near even. I think the comment I made was that in the first half of the fight Bute was boxing like a poor man's Kessler and in the second half he was more of a poor man's Calzaghe. He was ridgid and overly mechanical in the first half of the fight but when he started bouncing on his toes he was much more effective. So it's not like that fight was a wash.

Bika has improved too imo since those bouts. I think Ward did what he wanted to do like others have mentioned and even if he didn't force someone else into his fight like he has done so often in the past, I think he wanted to prove something. He did a good job. He landed almost all the clean, effective punches in that bout. I'm proud that people have taken to my Hopkins comparision too because I swear I was the first with that. Also, he showed he has tenacity and that intentional elbow was viscous but it just goes to show that he's not soft and not to be fucked with.

Ward will be P4P #1 one day.

[Master]

No shame in not being the next Roy Jones, there can only be one.

Ward will be top of the p4p ranking when he beat Froch and Bute, which I think he will do.

[Rantcatrat]

No shame in not being the next Roy Jones, there can only be one.

Ward will be top of the p4p ranking when he beat Froch and Bute, which I think he will do.

Won't he have to face Kessler again after Froch? Personally, I would very much like to see Bute fight Kessler.

[Master]

No shame in not being the next Roy Jones, there can only be one.

Ward will be top of the p4p ranking when he beat Froch and Bute, which I think he will do.

Won't he have to face Kessler again after Froch?

His next fight should be AA, should he win that then Froch, (should Carl beat Johnson) which makes him the winner of the tournament, that leaves him free to fight Bute. This is in an ideal world.

[Rantcatrat]

Yea no, I was assuming if he beat AA and Froch, I'm pretty sure Kessler gets to fight the winner first?

[Master]

Yea no, I was assuming if he beat AA and Froch, I'm pretty sure Kessler gets to fight the winner first?

Did not realise that, but Andre beat him anyway and Froch keeps saying he retired him.