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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa View Post
    One thing that you said I agree with. That is PBF's chin. Many people think defensive fighters are the way they are because they cant take a punch. Personally, I am an extremely defensive fighter. But I can take bombs square on the chin without getting even dizzy. I have a great chin yet I love the "sweet science" too much to just sit and trade (something I call blasphemy ). Im sure PBF is similar. Take Ali as well for example.
    Calm down son, you're not Sugar Ray Leonard yet

    I agree though that assuming a defensive fighter has a weak chin is silly. The fact that Mayweather got caught by the likes of De La Hoya, Corrales, Hatton & Judah at some point shows that he has a chin that can hold up. Any fighter with 30+ fights (a lot at a high level) who has never been down from a punch has to have a good chin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    IMO and many will disagree, I think Floyd Mayweather cant take a punch and he knows it, like Roy Jones and Fernando Vargas and Lennox Lewis, all really REALLY EXAGGERATEDLY RAN LIKE ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE away from punches.

    Well yes, a boxer SHOULD run the hell away from punches, but the way THEY ran their little tails off at the slightest feint or punch, it always seemed to me that they knew they couldn't take too good a shot.

    Now ODLH can REALLY take a good shot. So could Larry Holmes, and so could Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali. I would say they were the OPPOSITE of the Glass Jaw crew above.
    this just goes to show that you know jackshit about boxing, glass jaw crew to me would be, Amir Khan, Tommy Hearns, Wlad Klitschko, etc.
    Jones' losses by KO were more from dropping to light heavy, he really hasn't been hurt after the 3rd fight with Tarver, a fight he could have won, Vargas didn't really have a glass jaw, he took a vicious beating by Trinidad and after 5 knockdowns was finally stopped in the 12th after giving Tito fits, Lewis i always ragged him on having a glass chin, but although it was far from being Iron it was half decent WHEN he came in fully focused, Mayweather has taken flush shots and although has been rocked never has gone down, and recouperates quickly, next we'll hear that Whitaker, Hopkins, and Wright were so defensive cause they can't take a punch

    best chins in boxing IMO
    Vitali Klitschko
    Erik Morales
    George Chuvalo
    and others

    I totally disagree about Lewis,he only lost to fighters he did not take seriously first time out but got payback in the rematch with both fighters. So ok,McCall had a breakdown,but he would have lost if he was at his best,and "the Rock" was exposed in the rematch that he lost. How many heavyweights have beaten every man they have faced? not many.
    The best pound for pound fighter in the world right now,Pacquiao,has 3 losses on his record,so when People are still writing Amir Khan off right now,i have to laugh. They both have the best trainer in the world,and where the packman is right now,at the top,that could be Amir in 3 years time. Feel free to disagree??
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Most of the fighters you listed Brock have pretty decent chins.

    Frank Bruno didn't have the greatest chin, but of active fighters...I have my suspisions about:

    Alexander Povetkin - Eddie Chambers hurt the guy FFS
    Alexander Dimitrenko - he hasn't been touched by a big timeor even an average puncher yet
    Nicolay Valuev - Taras Bidenko, Monte Barrett, and probably some other guys have hurt this big dude
    NOTICE I DIDN'T LIST DAVID HAYE.....YET
    Roy Jones Jr. - NOW, but during his prime he could take a shot if he had to.
    Enzo Maccarinelli - He just can't take a shot 3 losses 3 KO's

    I have doubts about Cris Arreola's chin but I am wondering if it's just due to poor training.
    Brunos chin was solid

    His KO defeats to witherspoon and bonecrusher were through fatigue not becuaes he couldnt take a punch

    The KO punch against Lewis was a masisve swinging hook, his whole body behind it, that caught bruno on the point of the jaw, now that was a punch where anyone would have gone from

    and his loses to Tyson he froze, he didnt fight well in either, yep he was KO'ed but he stood still for most of the fight, maybe it was all down to how good tyson was first time? second time it seemed to be brunos mental state

    Bruno was the best heavyweight in the history of boxing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Maybe JCC Jnr
    Ray Mercer's resistance has gone.
    Chris Arreola

    Chris Arreola? He was pounded by the Klit, wasnt exactly KOed

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    Andre Berto

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    Don't really think any of those mentioned have true 'Glass jaws'. Those guys, like them or not, are operating at elite world class level. They would not have got past the journeymen if they had glass jaws.

    Best jaws I can think of:

    Marvin Hagler
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    George Chuvalo
    Jess Willard
    Muhammad Ali
    among others who I cant think of right now

    Margarito has shown pretty good punch resistance through his career.

    The trouble is, that when a fighter just 'goes' ...... their punch resistance seems to just disappear. We've even seen this from great fighters!

    I'd like to see the Internet Warriors who are so quick to sit on a computer and call fighters fake, cowards, cheats, glass jaw etc take a couple of shots from a professional fighter to just 'recalibrate' their grading systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Don't really think any of those mentioned have true 'Glass jaws'. Those guys, like them or not, are operating at elite world class level. They would not have got past the journeymen if they had glass jaws.

    Best jaws I can think of:

    Marvin Hagler
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    George Chuvalo
    Jess Willard
    Muhammad Ali
    among others who I cant think of right now

    Margarito has shown pretty good punch resistance through his career.

    The trouble is, that when a fighter just 'goes' ...... their punch resistance seems to just disappear. We've even seen this from great fighters!

    I'd like to see the Internet Warriors who are so quick to sit on a computer and call fighters fake, cowards, cheats, glass jaw etc take a couple of shots from a professional fighter to just 'recalibrate' their grading systems.
    Oh god yes!! This is exactly how I feel. Just a single shot would be worth it

    Although if they've done a bit of swimming I think they'd firm the shot easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Don't really think any of those mentioned have true 'Glass jaws'. Those guys, like them or not, are operating at elite world class level. They would not have got past the journeymen if they had glass jaws.

    Best jaws I can think of:

    Marvin Hagler
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    George Chuvalo
    Jess Willard
    Muhammad Ali
    among others who I cant think of right now

    Margarito has shown pretty good punch resistance through his career.

    The trouble is, that when a fighter just 'goes' ...... their punch resistance seems to just disappear. We've even seen this from great fighters!

    I'd like to see the Internet Warriors who are so quick to sit on a computer and call fighters fake, cowards, cheats, glass jaw etc take a couple of shots from a professional fighter to just 'recalibrate' their grading systems.

    Did Ali have a fight once where his jaw got broke? Just goes to show you. An all time great,a true legend,but even the greatest boxers were human!

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    Audley Harrison tops my list right now.

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    [QUOTE=Rayvale;923570]
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    IMO and many will disagree, I think Floyd Mayweather cant take a punch and he knows it, like Roy Jones and Fernando Vargas and Lennox Lewis, all really REALLY EXAGGERATEDLY RAN LIKE ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE away from punches.

    Well yes, a boxer SHOULD run the hell away from punches, but the way THEY ran their little tails off at the slightest feint or punch, it always seemed to me that they knew they couldn't take too good a shot.

    Now ODLH can REALLY take a good shot. So could Larry Holmes, and so could Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali. I would say they were the OPPOSITE of the Glass Jaw crew above.
    this just goes to show that you know jackshit about boxing, glass jaw crew to me would be, Amir Khan, Tommy Hearns, Wlad Klitschko, etc.
    Jones' losses by KO were more from dropping to light heavy, he really hasn't been hurt after the 3rd fight with Tarver, a fight he could have won, Vargas didn't really have a glass jaw, he took a vicious beating by Trinidad and after 5 knockdowns was finally stopped in the 12th after giving Tito fits, Lewis i always ragged him on having a glass chin, but although it was far from being Iron it was half decent WHEN he came in fully focused, Mayweather has taken flush shots and although has been rocked never has gone down, and recouperates quickly, next we'll hear that Whitaker, Hopkins, and Wright were so defensive cause they can't take a punch

    best chins in boxing IMO
    Vitali Klitschko
    Erik Morales
    George Chuvalo
    and others

    I totally disagree about Lewis,he only lost to fighters he did not take seriously first time out but got payback in the rematch with both fighters. So ok,McCall had a breakdown,but he would have lost if he was at his best,and "the Rock" was exposed in the rematch that he lost. How many heavyweights have beaten every man they have faced? not many.
    The best pound for pound fighter in the world right now,Pacquiao,has 3 losses on his record,so when People are still writing Amir Khan off right now,i have to laugh. They both have the best trainer in the world,and where the packman is right now,at the top,that could be Amir in 3 years time. Feel free to disagree??
    Also,why is Chris Eubank not mentioned as a solid chin? Now that really WAS the toughest chin i saw on any boxer. He maybe carried on too long,as he never did recover from the brutal second meeting with Michael Watson,but man,through his showmanship,or confidence/arrogance (call it what you will) he was one tough dude!
    Sad though,as both Eubank and Nigel Benn,(Benn V Gerald McCllelan) after almost killing people in the ring,they were never the same fighter afterwards,and it is very understandable why.

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    [QUOTE=Rayvale;923706]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvale View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    IMO and many will disagree, I think Floyd Mayweather cant take a punch and he knows it, like Roy Jones and Fernando Vargas and Lennox Lewis, all really REALLY EXAGGERATEDLY RAN LIKE ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE away from punches.

    Well yes, a boxer SHOULD run the hell away from punches, but the way THEY ran their little tails off at the slightest feint or punch, it always seemed to me that they knew they couldn't take too good a shot.

    Now ODLH can REALLY take a good shot. So could Larry Holmes, and so could Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali. I would say they were the OPPOSITE of the Glass Jaw crew above.
    this just goes to show that you know jackshit about boxing, glass jaw crew to me would be, Amir Khan, Tommy Hearns, Wlad Klitschko, etc.
    Jones' losses by KO were more from dropping to light heavy, he really hasn't been hurt after the 3rd fight with Tarver, a fight he could have won, Vargas didn't really have a glass jaw, he took a vicious beating by Trinidad and after 5 knockdowns was finally stopped in the 12th after giving Tito fits, Lewis i always ragged him on having a glass chin, but although it was far from being Iron it was half decent WHEN he came in fully focused, Mayweather has taken flush shots and although has been rocked never has gone down, and recouperates quickly, next we'll hear that Whitaker, Hopkins, and Wright were so defensive cause they can't take a punch

    best chins in boxing IMO
    Vitali Klitschko
    Erik Morales
    George Chuvalo
    and others

    I totally disagree about Lewis,he only lost to fighters he did not take seriously first time out but got payback in the rematch with both fighters. So ok,McCall had a breakdown,but he would have lost if he was at his best,and "the Rock" was exposed in the rematch that he lost. How many heavyweights have beaten every man they have faced? not many.
    The best pound for pound fighter in the world right now,Pacquiao,has 3 losses on his record,so when People are still writing Amir Khan off right now,i have to laugh. They both have the best trainer in the world,and where the packman is right now,at the top,that could be Amir in 3 years time. Feel free to disagree??
    Also,why is Chris Eubank not mentioned as a solid chin? Now that really WAS the toughest chin i saw on any boxer. He maybe carried on too long,as he never did recover from the brutal second meeting with Michael Watson,but man,through his showmanship,or confidence/arrogance (call it what you will) he was one tough dude!
    Sad though,as both Eubank and Nigel Benn,(Benn V Gerald McCllelan) after almost killing people in the ring,they were never the same fighter afterwards,and it is very understandable why.
    did you not read what i wrote about Lewis?!? i said he had a good chin, and that the only times he was sparked was when he wasn't fully prepared or took the fight seriously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvale View Post
    Did Ali have a fight once where his jaw got broke? Just goes to show you. An all time great,a true legend,but even the greatest boxers were human!
    Yes - he had his jaw broken during the first Norton fight. Lasted through to the end, but he lost the decision quite fairly.

    Joe Frazier got up 6 times afrter George Foreman nearly took his head off in Jamaica.

    Jess Willard had his jaw broken in four places, 7 teeth knocked out, two broken ribs, liver and kidney damage and a fractured eye socket in the FIRST ROUND against Jack Dempsey.

    Unbelievably, he gutted through, absorbed a horrific beating and was finally pulled out in the third or fourth.

    You're right, everybody's human ........ it's how people respond that differentiates the greats from mere mortals!
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    How the fuck has Vargas even been mentioned in this thread??

    If fighters take some big shots then have to run a bit that's clever, they need to clear their heads before getting stuck back in.

    Any fighter who goes down from massive shots do not have a glass chin and anyone who gets knocked out from big shots does not have a glass chin. Anyone can be knocked out if caught right.

    Lewis had a good chin the 2 times he was knocked out those shots would have sparked anyone.

    A glass chin to me means a fighter who goes down from a punch that he should be able to take and isn't particularly hard. If he gets up then sweet try not to get caught again lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvale View Post
    Did Ali have a fight once where his jaw got broke? Just goes to show you. An all time great,a true legend,but even the greatest boxers were human!

    Jess Willard had his jaw broken in four places, 7 teeth knocked out, two broken ribs, liver and kidney damage and a fractured eye socket in the FIRST ROUND against Jack Dempsey.

    Same fight where people accuse him of loaded gloves right??
    I didn't know all the specifics to Willard's injuries, this makes me wonder...
    Considering how small Jack was compared to the giant.

    I've read Dempsey had his gloves checked before the fight BUT, so did Margarito against Cotto in a MUCH more secure manner.

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