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    Default Re: Which fighter do you credit the most?

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    bilbo,

    you asked the question "who is the fighter who is fighting the opponents we want him to". you didn't say anything about resumes. whereas it's true that pacquiao has done incredible things in the past few years, he and his team continue to get ridiculed by fans all over the world for their choices of opponents.

    evander holyfield is another fighter i forgot. great, great competitor!
    Perhaps I didn't explain the original post well.

    Yeah basically what I am saying is, 'if Manny's resume has been disappointing since moving up from super featherweight a couple years ago in the eyes of critics on here, who do they think is fighting more significant fights and has acheived more than him in the past couple years?'

    Also, following on from that, if the guys you think are achieving more were to then jump up three weight classes and dominate the cream of those higher weight classes, but at catchweights a couple pounds below the weight class, would you discredit those victories as not worth very much? So if Martinez dominated Jean Pascal at 173 lbs or Tim Bradley knocked out Paul Williams at 158lbs would these results not mean anything to you, or would you even go further, and cynically believe these fights were stacked in favour of the smaller guy?

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    Default Re: Which fighter do you credit the most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    bilbo,

    you asked the question "who is the fighter who is fighting the opponents we want him to". you didn't say anything about resumes. whereas it's true that pacquiao has done incredible things in the past few years, he and his team continue to get ridiculed by fans all over the world for their choices of opponents.

    evander holyfield is another fighter i forgot. great, great competitor!
    Perhaps I didn't explain the original post well.

    Yeah basically what I am saying is, 'if Manny's resume has been disappointing since moving up from super featherweight a couple years ago in the eyes of critics on here, who do they think is fighting more significant fights and has acheived more than him in the past couple years?'

    Also, following on from that, if the guys you think are achieving more were to then jump up three weight classes and dominate the cream of those higher weight classes, but at catchweights a couple pounds below the weight class, would you discredit those victories as not worth very much? So if Martinez dominated Jean Pascal at 173 lbs or Tim Bradley knocked out Paul Williams at 158lbs would these results not mean anything to you, or would you even go further, and cynically believe these fights were stacked in favour of the smaller guy?
    I would of liked to have seen Manny Pacquiao, explore the Lightweight division a bit more. Because he basically skipped that division all together, when there was young hungry fighters.

    But again i can understand why he did, because of the big money fights vs Hatton, ODLH. But still you can't really fault the man, what he's done is incredible end of.

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