If Maidana Had Better Things...

**Memphis** · 12-13-2010 08:25 PM

Taught to box by goats

**ono** · 12-13-2010 08:31 PM

Haha, erm it's hard. With certain fighters, their rawness can be what makes them so effective. Sometimes if you try and change a fighter, he loses his identity and as a result, he becomes less effective at what would normally come naturally.

I think Maidana is this type of fighter.

**Kev** · 12-13-2010 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by ono

Haha, erm it's hard. With certain fighters, their rawness can be what makes them so effective. Sometimes if you try and change a fighter, he loses his identity and as a result, he becomes less effective at what would normally come naturally.

I think Maidana is this type of fighter.

I think so too. Certainly guys like Miranda and Sam Peter seemed a whole lot better before they got any proper training. Just took the violence away and left them piss poor boxers.

**donnydarkoIRL** · 12-14-2010 01:35 PM

Pacquiao was pretty crude before Roach.
Elite training worked for him.

**J_Undisputed** · 12-14-2010 08:53 PM

I thinks how a fighter responds to training. Is he doing what he's told.. or has he adopted the principles hes been taught and started to think for himself that way. If your fighting for money or a better life, its great inspiration but the gamble is heavy. The fighters that good training usually pays off for, are not so much privileged but students of the game. They get paid but winning is first... and it drives you to be better.

**CFH** · 12-14-2010 09:15 PM

Maidana strikes me as the type of fighter who would abandon all his new-found technique the moment he got hit. He just seems to have a brawlers mentality. Like VD said in another thread, all he wants to do is hit people. You try to shake his hand - he hits you, the ref steps in - he hits you or tries to elbow the ref out of his way. It just seems to be his mentality.

**JazzWolf** · 12-14-2010 09:29 PM

It's more about the heart and work ethic of the boxer and not what the boxer has. If a fighter is aware that he has less and works to compensate for it with more work, I think that he/she could achieve the same level as the the boxer with state of the art equipment. "Put a man in a jungle, and he will become a beast. Put in a man in the city, and he will lose himself." Whether your hitting mitts or bamboo pillars, it doesn't really matter as long as your heart is willing to suffer to achieve your goal.