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    Default Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I've only just watched the Maidana fight. I don't think I have ever seen quicker hand speed than Khan! Also, I was majorly impresseed with his chin, he took some ferocious shots froma huge puncher! I still have my doubts about him though Zab is a dangerous fight for which Khan probably won't get much credit. i.e If he wins, people just say Judah was washed up and had lost 6 times before.
    Well Zab Judah has been on the slide for quite sometime now, i didn't see his last fight. But i looked at the scores and it seems he was lucky to get nod, he was also floored in the 10th round in the fight.

    Zab Judah is just a gatekeeper now, the only fighter he's beat in ages worth mentioning is Santa Cruz who is really a Lightweight.

    It's a decent fight for Amir Khan, but don't make out this fight. Is anything other than just to further Amir Khan's name in USA.

    Because Zab Judah isn't a top level fighter anymore, and i don't know why he's at Jr Welterweight to be honest. Because dropping weight isn't going to help matters.

    But its a decent fight and it makes sense in someways. But i would rather Amir Khan revenge his loss, i'd give him more credit for doing that.
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    I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.

    Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.

    Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.

    It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.

    Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.

    Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.

    As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.

    He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.

    I think Khan wins late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.

    Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.

    Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.

    It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.

    Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.

    Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.

    As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.

    He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.

    I think Khan wins late.
    I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.

    Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.

    Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.

    It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.

    Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.

    Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.

    As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.

    He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.

    I think Khan wins late.
    I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.

    Amir Khan always gets wild.

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    Default Re: Judah says Khan v Judah is nearly a done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.

    Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.

    Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.

    It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.

    Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.

    Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.

    As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.

    He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.

    I think Khan wins late.
    I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.

    Amir Khan always gets wild.
    That's true, he can look a little clumsy and off balance at times. If he keeps this to a minimum, he should have few problems here though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I think there are definitely easier opponents out there for Khan than Zab, but I do think Khan will have too much for him.

    Unlike Ice I think junior welter is why Zab should be. The fights he was losing at welterweight were to bigger guys who just outstrenghted him, and he faded down the stretch.

    Mayythyse was a big junior welter with a very strong physical presence and again Zab, after winning most of the early rounds faded.

    It's hard to imagine Zab being able to fight hard for 12 rounds. I've always thought of him as being like Victor Ortiz (or rather Ortiz being like Judah) in that he wilts under pressure. Faced with a tough challenge he stops punching and imo looks for a way out.

    Khan never does that and that will mean he's likely to finish stronger imo.

    Judah's best shot will be inside the first 4-6 rounds, after that it's likely to be all Khan.

    As Khan is a pretty fast starter himself it's going to be hard for Zab to make any impression on this fight imo.

    He has to land something big and hurt Khan early, or else he's just getting another beating from a bigger, stronger, younger, hungrier guy.

    I think Khan wins late.
    I think Khan stops him late on aswell. Having said that, Khan can surprise early on, so who knows. I'll just go with a Khan stoppage win. Judah has a chance if Khan gets wild and doesn't judge the distance quick enough. Should be fairly straight forward for him though. Too much output. Judah is 'wilty' for want of a better word.

    Amir Khan always gets wild.
    That's true, he can look a little clumsy and off balance at times. If he keeps this to a minimum, he should have few problems here though.
    One thing that was clear to me in the Marcos Maidana fight, was that Amir Khan would often go off balance when throwing combinations. Something Manny Pacquiao also did early in his career.

    Marcos Maidana couldn't take advantage of that, because he isn't fast enough. So im just wondering if Zab Judah can with his speed and countering abilities.

    It's no secret Zab Judah isn't a top fighter anymore, and is just a gatekeeper now. But he still has some attributes to trouble Amir Khan.

    And another thing to point out is how many Southpaw's has Amir Khan fought ? if any ? because i can't remember any at the moment. I know he spars with Manny Pacquiao, but it's totally different in a real fight.

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