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    Default Re: Is Pacman More Popular than de la Hoya Was?

    @generalbulldog

    IMO i guess Thailand has more solid champions than Japan if talking asia in the past 10 or 15 years. well it could be debated.

    Yes chinese has potential still too young for the sport no solid history regarding boxing, well they got silver and even Gold, like Audley Harisson had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Sorry but no...

    You guys realize that Oscar attended the Grammys the Oscars among other prestigious events?

    Pac is the most popular boxer since ODLH and he is very well on his way to being up there.
    If what we are talking about is popularity alone it's ODLH.

    ODLH broke barriers in a lot of countries where boxing wasn't even taken into consideration.
    Mick the Grammy's are American though, of course an American boxer will be more popular in America! Manny's global fanbase is rapdily growing however.

    I'm would say it's a fair bet that Manny is more popular than Oscar across Asia and seeing as that continent holds well over half the entire world's population I reckon he wins.

    What other boxer in the world could fight in a country not his own, against a fighter also not from that country and put on the biggest PPV fight of the year there?

    Pac is massive. He may not go to the Grammy's but he does hang out with his country's president!
    Well ODLH also attended events in Spain, Germany, Mexico and Australia that I can recall.
    ODLH was the poster child for boxing. I think Diz hit it dead on with his post and Spicoli sealed the deal.
    Pac was catapulted to another bracket after he fought ODLH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    As far as longevity no way. Oscar was spoon fed and in massive spotlight during & straight out of Olympics and every single fight was televised. Manny vs Oscar was about Manny catapulting off the Oscar name into different fame bracket and marketing as much if not more then it was about skill vs skill viable boxer. Manny has hit massive western world stride off it and it's great to see for sport but Oscars on another level long term.
    Spot on Spicoli...

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    Its a shame but unless the normal media outlets pick up on a storyline and run with it the general public know little about all of the greats.
    Look at Ali, Oscar cant surpass him, Ali has generations of fans pulled in by media backing outside of boxing circles who have bought into his story.
    In one decades time many of Alis fans will have died along with him and I doubt the new born ones will know or be told of him. Mannys general popularity could grow yet in areas outside of boxing, I wouldn't write him off just yet. If the media buy into his as yet unwritten story.He is cashed up,smart,and he is compassionate and giving, I think big things will happen around him for years to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Sorry but no...

    You guys realize that Oscar attended the Grammys the Oscars among other prestigious events?

    Pac is the most popular boxer since ODLH and he is very well on his way to being up there.
    If what we are talking about is popularity alone it's ODLH.

    ODLH broke barriers in a lot of countries where boxing wasn't even taken into consideration.
    Mick the Grammy's are American though, of course an American boxer will be more popular in America! Manny's global fanbase is rapdily growing however.

    I'm would say it's a fair bet that Manny is more popular than Oscar across Asia and seeing as that continent holds well over half the entire world's population I reckon he wins.

    What other boxer in the world could fight in a country not his own, against a fighter also not from that country and put on the biggest PPV fight of the year there?

    Pac is massive. He may not go to the Grammy's but he does hang out with his country's president!
    Well ODLH also attended events in Spain, Germany, Mexico and Australia that I can recall.
    ODLH was the poster child for boxing. I think Diz hit it dead on with his post and Spicoli sealed the deal.
    Pac was catapulted to another bracket after he fought ODLH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    As far as longevity no way. Oscar was spoon fed and in massive spotlight during & straight out of Olympics and every single fight was televised. Manny vs Oscar was about Manny catapulting off the Oscar name into different fame bracket and marketing as much if not more then it was about skill vs skill viable boxer. Manny has hit massive western world stride off it and it's great to see for sport but Oscars on another level long term.
    Spot on Spicoli...
    I think history will remember Manny Pacquiao far more than De La Hoya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Sorry but no...

    You guys realize that Oscar attended the Grammys the Oscars among other prestigious events?

    Pac is the most popular boxer since ODLH and he is very well on his way to being up there.
    If what we are talking about is popularity alone it's ODLH.

    ODLH broke barriers in a lot of countries where boxing wasn't even taken into consideration.
    Mick the Grammy's are American though, of course an American boxer will be more popular in America! Manny's global fanbase is rapdily growing however.

    I'm would say it's a fair bet that Manny is more popular than Oscar across Asia and seeing as that continent holds well over half the entire world's population I reckon he wins.

    What other boxer in the world could fight in a country not his own, against a fighter also not from that country and put on the biggest PPV fight of the year there?

    Pac is massive. He may not go to the Grammy's but he does hang out with his country's president!
    Well ODLH also attended events in Spain, Germany, Mexico and Australia that I can recall.
    ODLH was the poster child for boxing. I think Diz hit it dead on with his post and Spicoli sealed the deal.
    Pac was catapulted to another bracket after he fought ODLH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    As far as longevity no way. Oscar was spoon fed and in massive spotlight during & straight out of Olympics and every single fight was televised. Manny vs Oscar was about Manny catapulting off the Oscar name into different fame bracket and marketing as much if not more then it was about skill vs skill viable boxer. Manny has hit massive western world stride off it and it's great to see for sport but Oscars on another level long term.
    Spot on Spicoli...
    I think history will remember Manny Pacquiao far more than De La Hoya
    I agree with what your saying Bil. Manny is probably already the more IMPORTANT boxer in regards to Boxing history but that ain't quite the same as POPULARITY... Unless of course his importance fuels his popularity... Which it doesn't.

    In terms of appeal, Oscar was the man.

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