Hopkins vs. Pascal Fight Thread

[SalTheButcher]

I'm okay with the draw.

But I must say Pascal is overrated. Hes got average boxing skills.

is he really rated highly outside of canada?

and mike ortega >>> steve smoger

[ruthless rocco]

i'm very disappointed with pascal's performance. bernard won the fight without question... but pascal should take the rematch because he's a much better fighter than he showed tonight. he can only do better the second time around and bernard will probably do equally well or worse. if pascal come out focused and with a solid plan then i think he should be able to stop hopkins.

[:::PSL:::]

I'm okay with the draw.

But I must say Pascal is overrated. Hes got average boxing skills.

is he really rated highly outside of canada?

and mike ortega >>> steve smoger

Some US writers got (or had) him as 2010 fighter of the year front runner.

[CFH]

I'm okay with the draw.

But I must say Pascal is overrated. Hes got average boxing skills.

is he really rated highly outside of canada?

and mike ortega >>> steve smoger

Some US writers got (or had) him as 2010 fighter of the year front runner.

If he had beaten Hopkins I would have had him as the fighter of the year; however, after this it's Montiel for me.

[:::PSL:::]

I'm okay with the draw.

But I must say Pascal is overrated. Hes got average boxing skills.

is he really rated highly outside of canada?

and mike ortega >>> steve smoger

Some US writers got (or had) him as 2010 fighter of the year front runner.

If he had beaten Hopkins I would have had him as the fighter of the year; however, after this it's Montiel for me.

I have Martinez as this years' foty.

I don't get why you picked him over Lucian Bute.

Pascal is very rugged. He's skills is crap. I've pointed that before.

Bute would knock his head off after round 6.

[CFH]

I'm okay with the draw.

But I must say Pascal is overrated. Hes got average boxing skills.

is he really rated highly outside of canada?

and mike ortega >>> steve smoger

Some US writers got (or had) him as 2010 fighter of the year front runner.

If he had beaten Hopkins I would have had him as the fighter of the year; however, after this it's Montiel for me.

I have Martinez as this years' foty.

I don't get why you picked him over Lucian Bute.

Pascal is very rugged. He's skills is crap. I've pointed that before.

Bute would knock his head off after round 6.

Who did I pick over Bute? Pascal? I've always said that I think Bute would stop him, but Pascal has had an amazing year.

[Kev]

I'm okay with the draw.

But I must say Pascal is overrated. Hes got average boxing skills.

is he really rated highly outside of canada?

and mike ortega >>> steve smoger

Some US writers got (or had) him as 2010 fighter of the year front runner.

Yeah Pascal was held in very high regard imo. Diaconu was until he ran into Pascal considered the biggest threat at 175, and Dawson was tipped to be a future p4p star. Floyd Mayweather described Dawson as the most gifted fighter in the sport after himself.

Pascal is a very good fighter. I just think Hopkins is an all time great, no question.

[ICB]

Yes it was a robbery, it wasn't wide mathematically but that doesn't mean it wasn't a robbery. Because the rounds were very easy to score, there were no swing rounds. B-hop won 8 rounds, Jean Pascal won 4 rounds with 2 knockdown's, one of them being disputed according to some on here.

[CFH]

Yes it was a robbery, it wasn't wide mathematically but that doesn't mean it wasn't a robbery. Because the rounds were very easy to score, there were no swing rounds. B-hop won 8 rounds, Jean Pascal won 4 rounds with 2 knockdown's, one of them being disputed according to some on here.

There were a couple of close rounds, but Hopkins deserved the win. I wouldn't call it a robbery though.

[ICB]

Yes it was a robbery, it wasn't wide mathematically but that doesn't mean it wasn't a robbery. Because the rounds were very easy to score, there were no swing rounds. B-hop won 8 rounds, Jean Pascal won 4 rounds with 2 knockdown's, one of them being disputed according to some on here.

There were a couple of close rounds, but Hopkins deserved the win. I wouldn't call it a robbery though.

Really bro ? because i didn't see any close rounds after the 4th round. Jean Pascal went on the backfoot doing nothing for 7 rounds. B-Hop was coming forward landing crisp shots to the body and head, even making Jean Pascal's legs buckle a few times.

The only round which was closish was the 12th round, but still Jean Pascal didn't win that round. And it was still a clear B-Hop round, although Jean Pascal made it more competitive than the other 7 rounds he still lost the round.

[CFH]

Yes it was a robbery, it wasn't wide mathematically but that doesn't mean it wasn't a robbery. Because the rounds were very easy to score, there were no swing rounds. B-hop won 8 rounds, Jean Pascal won 4 rounds with 2 knockdown's, one of them being disputed according to some on here.

There were a couple of close rounds, but Hopkins deserved the win. I wouldn't call it a robbery though.

Really bro ? because i didn't see any close rounds after the 4th round. Jean Pascal went on the backfoot doing nothing for 7 rounds. B-Hop was coming forward landing crisp shots to the body and head, even making Jean Pascal's legs buckle a few times.

The only round which was closish was the 12th round, but still Jean Pascal didn't win that round. And it was still a clear B-Hop round, although Jean Pascal made it more competitive than the other 7 rounds he still lost the round.

I didn't give Pascal a round after the 3rd, but there were a couple of ccasions where I felt that I could understand a judge scoring the round for Pascal.

[Gandalf]

It was a great performance from Hopkins, but Pascal was such a let down. He had no output from about the 5th onwards. It was as though all that dancing and occasional combination punching had him spent with most of the fight still to go. He had Hopkins in a position noone else has ever had him and this was an old Hopkins with a seemingly fragile ability to take flush shots and a vulnerability in defence. All Pascal had to do was outwork the old man for a few of those rounds, but no output whatsover.

Anyway, full credit to Hopkins. He was in a hole after 4 and was looking in serious trouble, but he kept his cool didn't rough it up too much and worked the rounds by outworking his oppponent. Hopkins looked like the real Jesus as compared with the current son of god tonight. No need for blatant cheating tonight. Props to Hopkins for that, I was expecting another stinkfest, but it wasn't really the case at all.

[ICB]

It was a great performance from Hopkins, but Pascal was such a let down. He had no output from about the 5th onwards. It was as though all that dancing and occasional combination punching had him spent with most of the fight still to go. He had Hopkins in a position noone else has ever had him and this was an old Hopkins with a seemingly fragile ability to take flush shots and a vulnerability in defence. All Pascal had to do was outwork the old man for a few of those rounds, but no output whatsover.

Anyway, full credit to Hopkins. He was in a hole after 4 and was looking in serious trouble, but he kept his cool didn't rough it up too much and worked the rounds by outworking his oppponent. Hopkins looked like the real Jesus as compared with the current son of god tonight. No need for blatant cheating tonight. Props to Hopkins for that, I was expecting another stinkfest, but it wasn't really the case at all.

B-Hop was hurt worse vs Segundo Mercado, and amazingly he was dropped twice in that fight aswell, and managed to earn a draw. It was closer than the Jean Pascal fight, but very similar scoring wise strangely.

[ICB]

I know this is slightly off topic but after remembering that fight again, i thought i'd pull out my old scorecard i done for that fight ages ago.


1 Hopkins 10-9
2 Hopkins 10-9
3 Hopkins 10-9
4 Mercado 10-9
5 Mercado 10-8
6 Hopkins 10-9
7 Mercado 10-8
8 Mercado 10-9
9 Even 10-10
10 Hopkins 10-9
11 Hopkins 10-9
12 Hopkins 10-9

114-113 Bernard Hopkins.

[Gandalf]

It was a great performance from Hopkins, but Pascal was such a let down. He had no output from about the 5th onwards. It was as though all that dancing and occasional combination punching had him spent with most of the fight still to go. He had Hopkins in a position noone else has ever had him and this was an old Hopkins with a seemingly fragile ability to take flush shots and a vulnerability in defence. All Pascal had to do was outwork the old man for a few of those rounds, but no output whatsover.

Anyway, full credit to Hopkins. He was in a hole after 4 and was looking in serious trouble, but he kept his cool didn't rough it up too much and worked the rounds by outworking his oppponent. Hopkins looked like the real Jesus as compared with the current son of god tonight. No need for blatant cheating tonight. Props to Hopkins for that, I was expecting another stinkfest, but it wasn't really the case at all.

B-Hop was hurt worse vs Segundo Mercado, and amazingly he was dropped twice in that fight aswell, and managed to earn a draw. It was closer than the Jean Pascal fight, but very similar scoring wise strangely.

Good call, forgot all about that one.