Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.

[Hornfinger]

Wlad needs to stop being a pussy and just sign the contract and be thankful he's getting paid seeing as he generates no where near the revenue that Haye will.

Well I'd point out the obvious flaws in your post, but that would be a waste of time because you wouldn't want to compare gate numbers between the two fighters...I suppose 60,000+ showed up to see Ruslan Chagaev? And 50,000+ showed up to see Eddie Chambers?


I love how they say "The deal is 50/50 just what Wlad wanted the whole time"......no 50/50 is what the WBA title holder wanted and then REFUSED to give until just recently. All the hang ups to this deal so far have been on one side.....and it ain't the Klitschko's. If it was Wlad's choice this fight would have happened almost 2 years ago.

As usual you've avoided the point.

1) Are you telling me Klit is the one bringing of the bigger % of revenue to the fight?

2) If you are implying 'Yes' to the above why didn't the Klit agree to the origonal proposal of Haye having Uk money and klit having the russian/german/other cut?

3) You'd rather see Klit fight Chisora. Nuff said.

[Lance Uppercut]

Yeah Haye is finally agreeing to 50/50 however, he has also added a brand new stipulation:

If Haye can get a TV station to bid on the fight, and the bid is more then what RTL(the network Wlad is tied to) is paying, then Wlad has to pay Haye the difference out of his own pocket.

so essentially, the challenger will make more then the champion.

[No Contest]

I just have one question about the Klit bros. Shouldnt Vitali be #1 mandatory for Wlad, and likewise in reverse. So when do these organizations start stripping them for not fighting no#1 mandatorys?

[rjj tszyu]

WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO’S trainer has urged him to hurry up and agree to fight Britain’s WBA heavyweight world champ David Haye | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

Now Steward is urging Wlad to hurry up and get signed!!

[El Kabong]

WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO’S trainer has urged him to hurry up and agree to fight Britain’s WBA heavyweight world champ David Haye | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

Now Steward is urging Wlad to hurry up and get signed!!

Do you guys bother to use reading comprehension? Yes Manny said the fight needs to get signed but he also said "50-50 all the way around"....and what is being offered is a different deal dressed up like its 50-50...its Sauerland wanting the fight to be shown on their network ARD and not RTL whether or not its of any benefit to Wlad or his opponent. And the opposition says ARD will offer ___ and RTL will offer less and if you take RTL's deal you have to pay the difference out of pocket when ARD can make up some imaginary figure that they "offer" but not in hopes of actually getting the fight. Its a bad deal and I think if Sauerland (who has made more fights fall apart than any other promoter I can think of) wasn't involved I think this fight would have been signed long ago.

[rjj tszyu]

WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO’S trainer has urged him to hurry up and agree to fight Britain’s WBA heavyweight world champ David Haye | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

Now Steward is urging Wlad to hurry up and get signed!!

Do you guys bother to use reading comprehension? Yes Manny said the fight needs to get signed but he also said "50-50 all the way around"....and what is being offered is a different deal dressed up like its 50-50...its Sauerland wanting the fight to be shown on their network ARD and not RTL whether or not its of any benefit to Wlad or his opponent. And the opposition says ARD will offer ___ and RTL will offer less and if you take RTL's deal you have to pay the difference out of pocket when ARD can make up some imaginary figure that they "offer" but not in hopes of actually getting the fight. Its a bad deal and I think if Sauerland (who has made more fights fall apart than any other promoter I can think of) wasn't involved I think this fight would have been signed long ago.

No Lyle Haye has said it can be shown on whichever German station they want. That is a FACT.

[El Kabong]

WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO’S trainer has urged him to hurry up and agree to fight Britain’s WBA heavyweight world champ David Haye | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

Now Steward is urging Wlad to hurry up and get signed!!

Do you guys bother to use reading comprehension? Yes Manny said the fight needs to get signed but he also said "50-50 all the way around"....and what is being offered is a different deal dressed up like its 50-50...its Sauerland wanting the fight to be shown on their network ARD and not RTL whether or not its of any benefit to Wlad or his opponent. And the opposition says ARD will offer ___ and RTL will offer less and if you take RTL's deal you have to pay the difference out of pocket when ARD can make up some imaginary figure that they "offer" but not in hopes of actually getting the fight. Its a bad deal and I think if Sauerland (who has made more fights fall apart than any other promoter I can think of) wasn't involved I think this fight would have been signed long ago.

No Lyle Haye has said it can be shown on whichever German station they want. That is a FACT.

That's another half truth rjjtszyu because you left out the stipulation where they tell Wlad to pay the difference of any other offers out of his portion of the purse......that's a FACT

[Cressa121]

WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO’S trainer has urged him to hurry up and agree to fight Britain’s WBA heavyweight world champ David Haye | The Sun |Sport|Boxing

Now Steward is urging Wlad to hurry up and get signed!!

At least they got his nationality right this time, last time the Klits were Russian

It looks like a lot of the obstacles that were stopping this fight being made before have been removed, so hopefully they'll get it signed soon. I'll still remain skeptical until its a done deal and they're in the ring, but its looking promising at least.

[El Kabong]

As usual you've avoided the point.

1) Are you telling me Klit is the one bringing of the bigger % of revenue to the fight?

2) If you are implying 'Yes' to the above why didn't the Klit agree to the origonal proposal of Haye having Uk money and klit having the russian/german/other cut?

3) You'd rather see Klit fight Chisora. Nuff said.

1) He puts more asses in the seats...FACT

2) Because the UK PPV money is a lot of money, Wlad is the man of the division and of course he's going to get his fair share out of any contract. Your idea of Wlad giving up the British PPV money altogether is ridiculous.

3) I don't think there's that much of a difference to be honest...the WBA title holder is a bit more flashy but he'll get KO'd much like Chisora would...maybe earlier.

[Hornfinger]

As usual you've avoided the point.

1) Are you telling me Klit is the one bringing of the bigger % of revenue to the fight?

2) If you are implying 'Yes' to the above why didn't the Klit agree to the origonal proposal of Haye having Uk money and klit having the russian/german/other cut?

3) You'd rather see Klit fight Chisora. Nuff said.

1) He puts more asses in the seats...FACT

2) Because the UK PPV money is a lot of money, Wlad is the man of the division and of course he's going to get his fair share out of any contract. Your idea of Wlad giving up the British PPV money altogether is ridiculous.

3) I don't think there's that much of a difference to be honest...the WBA title holder is a bit more flashy but he'll get KO'd much like Chisora would...maybe earlier.

Stop ducking the questions

The 1st one wasn't about asses on seats it was about REVENUE. And if wlad puts so many more asses on seats and generates so much more money why did he not say 'ok david you can keep the chicken feed that is the Uk money I'll have everything else.' He didn't say that cuz he knows Haye is worth alot more than that. It seems that your boy wlad keeps makin you look an arse. First by taking a fight with chisora, then pulling out with an 'injury' and now pretty much admitting that Haye is more of a cash cow than he is. Lyle you really are comedy central at the moment and one of the few reasons why I keep coming back to post.

And your final thought that there isn't much difference between Haye and Chisora tells me how little you know about either fighter and how much you talk out of your arse.

[El Kabong]

Hornfinger watch the fights, watch Wlad dominate and end the fight when he so chooses, it doesn't matter which Britain he fights both will be easily outclassed and severely out gunned and both will be humiliated in the ring. That's all I have to say on the issue until the fight (either fight) is actually signed and ready to go.

[erics44]

Hornfinger watch the fights, watch Wlad dominate and end the fight when he so chooses, it doesn't matter which Britain he fights both will be easily outclassed and severely out gunned and both will be humiliated in the ring. That's all I have to say on the issue until the fight (either fight) is actually signed and ready to go.

why do you love wlad so much?

[rjj tszyu]

As usual you've avoided the point.

1) Are you telling me Klit is the one bringing of the bigger % of revenue to the fight?

2) If you are implying 'Yes' to the above why didn't the Klit agree to the origonal proposal of Haye having Uk money and klit having the russian/german/other cut?

3) You'd rather see Klit fight Chisora. Nuff said.

1) He puts more asses in the seats...FACT

2) Because the UK PPV money is a lot of money, Wlad is the man of the division and of course he's going to get his fair share out of any contract. Your idea of Wlad giving up the British PPV money altogether is ridiculous.

3) I don't think there's that much of a difference to be honest...the WBA title holder is a bit more flashy but he'll get KO'd much like Chisora would...maybe earlier.

To be honest I've been arguing with you on this fight for over 2 years now Lyle and I don't really want to anymore. One thing I will say though is If Haye and Wlad do fight at Wembley Stadium, the amount of people that turn up to see that fight will dwarf anything Wlad has managed in Germany. FACT.

No matter how you try and dress things up, Haye brings more to the table moneywise than Wlad.

It's a fight I am looking forward to because I truly believe both men COULD beat the other. Haye has the power to KO Wlad, FACT. Wlad has the power to KO Haye FACT. Haye is a lot faster than Wlad, Wlad is a lot bigger than Haye. It's all swing and roundabouts and until they do meet everyone will have their own opinion, but one thing you cannot deny is that Haye brings more money to the fight than Wlad. I'm not saying for one minute Wlad doesn't deserve the 50/50 split because he does. He is the man of the division until he gets beaten, FACT. But trying to deny Haye brings the more money to the table is scandalous and also Haye has only been putting 20,000+ people in seats because thats all the arena's over here hold. A fight with Klit at Wembley could see 80,000+.

[Mattyhitman]

Some more news on this issue, looks like Haye is really pushing for this, he is willing to take a £2m paycut to secure the fight !!

What excuse will the Klits NOW come up with i wonder

Haye 'to take £2m pay cut' to secure Klitschko fight - Yahoo! Eurosport

[Nameless]

Some more news on this issue, looks like Haye is really pushing for this, he is willing to take a £2m paycut to secure the fight !!

What excuse will the Klits NOW come up with i wonder

Haye 'to take £2m pay cut' to secure Klitschko fight - Yahoo! Eurosport

Have you ever seen the K taking excuses not to fight Haye? I'Ve seen this the opposite direction 2 times back to back.