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    Once again I will ask the forum: Hopkins vs Cloud who ya got?

    Tavoris Cloud has a title and with Pascal-Dawson II apparently next up why not make this fight?

    IMO if Cloud can handle Hopkins' style then he's one dangerous S.O.B....I see Cloud (if he is going to lose) losing to a boxer, but after what Dawson showed vs Pascal I don't think Bad Chad has it in him to keep Cloud at bay, Hopkins might as he's cagey in his old age.
    Tavoris Cloud as i've said time and time again is another Jeff Lacy, yes he may have more punch variety. But he only fights in spurts normally, and even an old Glen Johnson was able to outwork him in quite alot of rounds. B-Hop would embarrass Tavoris Cloud, as would Chad Dawson.
    Its good that you bring up Glen Johnson because right now I think he's better than Hopkins and I always wondered why a rematch between them wasn't made.

    The blueprint to beat BHop is set: win early rounds (1-5) then win 2 more late rounds and bingo bango mathematically BHop is out 7 rounds to 5.

    After seeing Pascal hurt BHop I have more hope for Cloud, but of course you guys think he's Jeff Lacy when he's obviously done more than Lacy ever has and vs better opponents too
    Glen Johnson better than B-Hop right now ? i don't think so bro. But that's your opinion and i respect it, but i couldn't disagree more.

    As for your other comment's well it isn't that easy, because Joe Calzaghe who's very active probably lost the first 4 rounds vs B-Hop.

    And plus Tavoris Cloud's workrate is very suspect he only fights in spurts, so what makes you think he can do that ?

    Im not so sure he's done more than Jeff Lacy, i mean Tavoris Cloud has a slight edge. For beating the better known names, although some of them were old.

    I think at the moment he's pretty much where Jeff Lacy was, before he fought Joe Calzaghe. I'd like to see him in with a boxer before i make any final judgements.

    But too me he looks quite one dimensional, top that off with suspect stamina. And i can't see him beating some of the top boys.

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    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: Will this be Hopkins last fight?

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    Glen Johnson better than B-Hop right now ? i don't think so bro. But that's your opinion and i respect it, but i couldn't disagree more.

    As for your other comment's well it isn't that easy, because Joe Calzaghe who's very active probably lost the first 4 rounds vs B-Hop.

    And plus Tavoris Cloud's workrate is very suspect he only fights in spurts, so what makes you think he can do that ?

    Im not so sure he's done more than Jeff Lacy, i mean Tavoris Cloud has a slight edge. For beating the better known names, although some of them were old.

    I think at the moment he's pretty much where Jeff Lacy was, before he fought Joe Calzaghe. I'd like to see him in with a boxer before i make any final judgements.

    But too me he looks quite one dimensional, top that off with suspect stamina. And i can't see him beating some of the top boys.
    Glen Johnson has done pretty damn well for a long stretch of time and at multiple weight classes. Johnson has a reasonable chance at winning out the Super Six...I mean he's never going to be the favorite but he's got as good of a chance as anyone else.

    Tavoris Cloud's "stamina issues" are nothing more than him loading up on his punches and some of the shots he hit Glen Johnson with would have put down most any light heavyweight. I agree that he hasn
    t fought a prime top notch fighter with pure boxing ability yet, but you never know how he'll react maybe he likes that better.

    Perhaps if we see Cloud vs Cleverly or someone like that it would answer some questions for us...I'm giving Cloud the benefit of the doubt, knowing full well his lack of defense could be a problem for him.

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