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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.
    I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

    Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

    Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

    It is officially happening now as well!

    Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News
    You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

    Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.
    Look right above your post for your answer

    The reason mayorga didnt take as much punishment is because he was better against Forrest quite simply.

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    Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.
    I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

    Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

    Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

    It is officially happening now as well!

    Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News
    You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

    Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.
    Look right above your post for your answer

    The reason mayorga didnt take as much punishment is because he was better against Forrest quite simply.
    But what has that got to do with your claim, that Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin ? i gave you the examples of the ODLH fight. And also that Shane Mosley got battered in some rounds vs Vernon Forrest. Taking much more than Ricardo Mayorga ever did.

    Ricardo Mayorga's style bothered Vernon Forrest but again, i don't see what that has to do with what you said. Plus Shane Mosley has never been stopped where as Ricardo Mayorga has multiple times, and also by Shane Mosley.

    So i don't understand how Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin in your mind.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.
    I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

    Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

    Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

    It is officially happening now as well!

    Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News
    You can't compare fights like that, you could also say Ricardo Mayorga was dropped and dominated vs ODLH in only 6 rounds. Yet Shane Mosley went 24 rounds with ODLH without ever looking in trouble.

    Also Ricardo Mayorga never took anywhere near the punishment, Shane Mosley took in the 2nd and 10th rounds of the 1st Vernon Forrest fight.
    Look right above your post for your answer

    The reason mayorga didnt take as much punishment is because he was better against Forrest quite simply.
    But what has that got to do with your claim, that Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin ? i gave you the examples of the ODLH fight. And also that Shane Mosley got battered in some rounds vs Vernon Forrest. Taking much more than Ricardo Mayorga ever did.

    Ricardo Mayorga's style bothered Vernon Forrest but again, i don't see what that has to do with what you said. Plus Shane Mosley has never been stopped where as Ricardo Mayorga has multiple times, and also by Shane Mosley.

    So i don't understand how Ricardo Mayorga has a better chin in your mind.
    At the height of their games, Shane got hurt by Forrest but Mayorga didnt, even though he offered free shots.

    Mayorga wasnt the same fighter after the Forrest fights, he didnt have the same interest. He didnt try to stay active, he just sat around doing nothing for months and would take big money offers and so he was never fit for his fights, he would fade and then get hit and thats it really but when he was training and fit, he took everything Forrest could throw and land. Even Trinidad didnt really hurt him to the chin either.

    The Mosley fight was lack of fitness again, just started slowing down. You reckon Mosley could take those left hooks from a middle weight Trinidad without his legs buckling?

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    I love how nearly half of the posters on here were picking YURI FOREMAN to beat Cotto.

    And now suddenly they think Mayorga has no chance at beating Cotto.

    I supported Cotto against Clottey, and he pulled it out in a close tough fight, and I damn sure supported Cotto to for sure beat Foreman.

    But Mayorga is my favorite fighter, has been for 5 years, and I must support him if this fight comes off.

    Mayorga most certainly has a chance in this fight, Cotto is not the same undefeated fighter who beat Zab Judah and edged out Mosley (who by the way refused to use his jab what so ever in that fight).
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    It is a long time since mayorga has had a great performance, he has been matched carefully and making a name from big defeats. Whilst Cotto resistance is not the best, this is a perfect fight for him, I would be more worried for Cotto fighting Berto.
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