When Pavlik gets his head on can he beat Martinez?

[El Kabong]

I think he's done. He had success not by using fundamentals but by being bigger and stronger than everyone he fought. He finally fought some guys that fought smarter than him and he got beat down.

I think with as hard as he took that first loss and with the personal issues he's had recently that it would be impossible for him to rebound to even become a title holder again. I think he'll lose at 168 say he's weight drained, try 175 and have fleeting success before he hangs up the gloves.

[The Fightfan]

Personally I think he still could beat Martinez. In that fight I thought he slowly started to turn the tide and then he knocked Martinez down. He seemed to have found a way to stop Martinez's movement with a simple jab to the body. Then the next round he got cut and he rapidly faded from there on. I think he was weight drained for that fight and could do much better and probably beat Martinez in a rematch.