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    Default Re: Pacquiao-Mosley done deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    To stop Shane would be an incredible feat and should not be downplayed if Manny Pac does it.
    I disagree to an extent. If Pacquiao knocks him out, or has him out on his feet and the referee stops it, then that is an incredible feat. But if Nazim pulls Shane out, for me that is to be expected. Like I said before, you saw what Nazim said to Shane after the 10th in the Mayweather fight. It's like Game said, Pacquiao is a harder puncher than Mayweather, has just as much if not more speed and is also a volume puncher with incredible accuracy. If Mosley was close to being stopped by Floyd after being gassed after 3 rounds, how do you expect him to deal with a guy who throws 90 punches a round?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    To stop Shane would be an incredible feat and should not be downplayed if Manny Pac does it.
    I disagree to an extent. If Pacquiao knocks him out, or has him out on his feet and the referee stops it, then that is an incredible feat. But if Nazim pulls Shane out, for me that is to be expected. Like I said before, you saw what Nazim said to Shane after the 10th in the Mayweather fight. It's like Game said, Pacquiao is a harder puncher than Mayweather, has just as much if not more speed and is also a volume puncher with incredible accuracy. If Mosley was close to being stopped by Floyd after being gassed after 3 rounds, how do you expect him to deal with a guy who throws 90 punches a round?
    Exactly... PAC stopping shane at this point means absolutely nothing. Especially when his own people have said shane needs to retire (roach) and that shane is going to tire after a round (ariza)...

    I'm expecting shane to be stopped inside of 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    To stop Shane would be an incredible feat and should not be downplayed if Manny Pac does it.
    I disagree to an extent. If Pacquiao knocks him out, or has him out on his feet and the referee stops it, then that is an incredible feat. But if Nazim pulls Shane out, for me that is to be expected. Like I said before, you saw what Nazim said to Shane after the 10th in the Mayweather fight. It's like Game said, Pacquiao is a harder puncher than Mayweather, has just as much if not more speed and is also a volume puncher with incredible accuracy. If Mosley was close to being stopped by Floyd after being gassed after 3 rounds, how do you expect him to deal with a guy who throws 90 punches a round?
    Exactly... PAC stopping shane at this point means absolutely nothing. Especially when his own people have said shane needs to retire (roach) and that shane is going to tire after a round (ariza)...

    I'm expecting shane to be stopped inside of 8.
    If he stopped Shane that would still be a big deal. Shane has never been stopped in his entire career. You guys write fighters off soooooo quickly.

    He's not a corpse now he lost to Floyd. Ok he's not in his prime but he's still going to be a tought challenge and has never lacked durability.

    Hopkins, Johnson and Tarver are still winning fights in their 40's and Shane has always been in fantastic shape.

    He ain't no Mayweather, we know that, but he didn't gas out against a much bigger man in Sergio Mora and was pushing the pace in the championship rounds, so it would be a big deal if Manny could stop him.

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    For those who say this is a gimmie or just a stay busy or a money making fight...

    Well come on let's keep it real so were Clottey and Margarito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    For those who say this is a gimmie or just a stay busy or a money making fight...

    Well come on let's keep it real so were Clottey and Margarito.
    I actually agree with you Mick. I think there's really nothing else out there for pac but Mayweather. Same goes for Floyd. I dont think Timothy, Alexander, Berto, JMM (floyd already proved) or anybody else is anything but a gimmie or just stay busy or a money making fight.

    The only real task would be above welterweight -> Sergio Martinez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    For those who say this is a gimmie or just a stay busy or a money making fight...

    Well come on let's keep it real so were Clottey and Margarito.
    I actually agree with you Mick. I think there's really nothing else out there for pac but Mayweather. Same goes for Floyd. I dont think Timothy, Alexander, Berto, JMM (floyd already proved) or anybody else is anything but a gimmie or just stay busy or a money making fight.

    The only real task would be above welterweight -> Sergio Martinez
    How can anyone say that a potential Marquez fight at 140 is a "gimmie"? That is an outrageous statement considering that Marquez has had two fights with Manny, gone down 4 times and yet still outboxed him in the vast majority of the rounds. Also Bradley is young, fast, skilled and undefeated. Berto considerably less so, but still undefeated. And we are to believe that Clottey, Margarito and a slumped Mosley are the best challenges we can give Manny?

    Everyone would like to see the Mayweather fight, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't more viable options out there than what we are currently being spoonfed. Martinez at 154 would be great too, but at WW and below there are still good fights to be had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    For those who say this is a gimmie or just a stay busy or a money making fight...

    Well come on let's keep it real so were Clottey and Margarito.
    I actually agree with you Mick. I think there's really nothing else out there for pac but Mayweather. Same goes for Floyd. I dont think Timothy, Alexander, Berto, JMM (floyd already proved) or anybody else is anything but a gimmie or just stay busy or a money making fight.

    The only real task would be above welterweight -> Sergio Martinez
    How can anyone say that a potential Marquez fight at 140 is a "gimmie"? That is an outrageous statement considering that Marquez has had two fights with Manny, gone down 4 times and yet still outboxed him in the vast majority of the rounds. Also Bradley is young, fast, skilled and undefeated. Berto considerably less so, but still undefeated. And we are to believe that Clottey, Margarito and a slumped Mosley are the best challenges we can give Manny?

    Everyone would like to see the Mayweather fight, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't more viable options out there than what we are currently being spoonfed. Martinez at 154 would be great too, but at WW and below there are still good fights to be had.
    Miles your saying Marquez would be a tough fight for Pac at 140? Thats your opinion and I guess your entitled to it. Let JMM fight at 140 first before you truly delude yourself. I too have an opinion, I think pac beats JMM in a third fight and I know what you will say afterwards. JMM is old, past it, out of his weight class. Its the same song. I am not saying Mosley is a better fight, but at least Mosley isn't removed from his weight class. I don't think you can use that one on this fight.

    As for the other 140 pounders, from what I've seen I think they are all a level below Pac and Floyd but there names do not carry the same weight as a Cotto, Margarito, Mosley. Pac is the biggest name in boxing, he will be pit against other big names. Timothy, Alexander, Berto and anyone else are just not there yet. But I think eventually pac will run out of big name fighters and will get to these guys if the Floyd fight continues to stall.

    I stick to my opinion, the only real fight out there for Pac is Floyd, anything else in WW is a stay busy, money maker fight.

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