Shadoboxing with weights

[Irish]

And heavy weights should not be used, 3-5 pounds at the most, for this but any more and could cause joint damage if not properly supervised, besides your gloves (depending on weight class) may be 14oz. no where near needing condition for a 5lb. glove

[Irish]

And resistance bands are much better for the joints than free weights and cause less potential for injury

[Andre]

Instead of concentrating on the punch and speeding it up.

You already know how to punch,so

concentrate on the return to position as fast as you can.
Then go the next step; deliver it, return it, but you have the second punch out there already done and dusted in your minds eye before the first one has even been launched.

You do this in your mind and your body will eventually follow the prompts you are giving it.
you can do this just in your mind alone if you feel a block to this, then start right at the start inside your head.


Then know where the opponents reaction will take their closest arm naturally to your own first delivery or feign and have the second punch delivered into the space they leave.

Move bodily so that you help the path into that space.

Build up speed combos combined with moves that really count,really make them pay for their reactions, know your opponents natural reactions to a set and work in between the gaps and in between his timing.

[Scrap]

Love this

[Scrap]

[Scrap]

[Andre]

double slit - crystalmage1234 - blip.tv


Did you see this yet Scrap?

Im into all the stuff you put up thanks, I'll be checking right into them.

[Scrap]

Love it . they say coaching isnt Rocket Science, done properly it is .

[WayneFlint]

So is what hes saying meaning that by some kind of meditation theyve found a way to sort of open peoples awareness levels further than is usually used in some cases of mental lock, also i got the idea they were saying that we shouldnt educate further and further in specific set areas as much otherwise we risk losing out on overall potential of the brain? and trying to expand knowledge in other areas is what the brain is designed for and you will get the best performance from it by educating in this way? i could have gotten all ofthis wrong but ill be watching it a few times lol.

Im going to watch the videos a few more times before i come down on tuesday scrap and we will disscuss it further, very interesting stuff. and somthing to apply to boxing.

Andre when you say in the 1-2 sort of example ''in your minds eye youve already completed the punch'' do you mean you are just throwing the first punch while your actually thinking about and concentrating on the following punch and just letting the first punch develop and finish without giving it much thought or concentration? sort of preloading the shot in your mind until its time to throw that shot?

I understand what your saying about the single shot example i think, pulling the shot back i think if you mean the same thing,just not really thinking about extending the shot instead sort of pre mentally loading the return of the shot? am i right with any of this or have i got it all wrong? lol

[Scrap]

He is talking isolation and why its wrong in fundamental movement and thought, see you tuesday

[Scrap]

He is talking isolation and why its wrong in fundamental movement and thought, see you tuesday. incorperate that into Dumbell routines as part of the whole, what have you got.

[Andre]

Im saying once you know .you know. stop thinking about it.
Stop building muscles into the pathway of knowing.
Better off with elastic,following Scraps ideas is going to poop on weights on arms.

I was sort of suggesting that if you cant flow freely in the zone without pre-thoughts slowing you down;

Then- re practice by breaking it down into sections like I suggested. But notice as you build up you are dropping the last thought process because;well dam it, you Know it already, get over it. That creates speed and creates free flow.

If theres a habit of physically thinking that slows you, then go right back and do nothing at all physically . just do the whole combination in your mind while you are sitting there relaxing and do it over and over until you are no longer thinking you are just flowing,

then stand up and do it see how fast you are then.

This isnt the be all and end all, its just one way of ticking something off.


Heres an interesting exersize. have your sparrring partner load up to hit you,nose to nose you are both in a square shouldered stance both hands can reach the target for both men . Adjust your stances as you would if fighting in a phone box.Should be like a half side stance.

Now let him launch shots freely with one arm and you try and stop him before he lands the shot. Thats tough you are nose to nose here. This is great for his disguised launching practice on you. you are trying to disrupt the path of his arm.

Not so good for you. He should be like a gun slinger drawing a gun and nearly smacking you at will.

Now rest your attacking glove or wrist on his rear fore arm and let him do that again with his other attacking arm, you stop his shot with your free hand when you feel it coming.

Side note: (Funny thing is you even mess up his shot and take the power out by disrupting his rear arm specially if you push lightly towards his center.)

Want to go one step more ?

Close your eyes!

Surprise you can still stop him.

This should really allow you to practice and devise some smart and unusual nose to nose stuff once you combine slight ankle turns and shoulder rolls,half switching stance to get from one side of his arm to the outside of his arm or back in etc and a slip and release of the rear guard style of short punch to it all, to force his reactions.

This is very free flowing no time to think its all on balance and reaction and you can feel it if the feeler is out.

you have to do this with your sparring partner, you can't be trying to knock each others heads off either, this a two way street an exercise that could with patience take you beyond pre thought.













Ahh fuk.

How far down the rabbit hole do you really want to go?

[WayneFlint]

Ithink i get the idea scrap, and if it is what i think it will make for an interesting chat.

Ilike the idea of those andre, im not a confident inside fighter so i tend to find myself using elbows to dissrupt shots and turn then into punches or just generally keep them off balance, i find this way of infighting helps me land hard shots if forced inside much easier than lean and bash type stuff and after i can get straight back on the outside where im comfy.

This is all sounding pretty normal at the moment andre, im a big believer in feel when it comes to fighting and always have been so it doesnt sound strange to me at all, i guess ive always 'felt' that feel is the more accurate or sensative of the senses in some situations lets go further down the rabbit hole

[Andre]

Well you can eventually use this feeling you get throgh the oppositions movment and balance and reactions to be able to slip around him so that you can be outside.

Or the reverse you can feel the openings arise and slip a blow straight up them as they do.

Elbows are great in there to be able to fold down from your glove (little finger side of wrist is the best feeler) on his forearm arm, to an elbow so that you keep control, automatically allows you to shift. in and land the other arm harder while smothering and still feeling his intention. Its all part of the dance. Brief clinch and push or grab and swing do what ever is the reverse of his reactions to you,(If you push he will come forwards) If you pull him he will push out or backwards) That when you help him along. Theres not too many rules a ref is going to land on you when both of your balance points are that close, hes thinking about separating you anyway, any movment saving him work and if you are punching or re-setting a position immediately he will be fine with a slight bit of control occuring.

[Andre]

Best if you are going to start reaction working with a partner. Start both in front stance and sword fight using only one arm, forget gloves. Right arm verses right arm or left verses left arm and get the feeling first.
You learn alot, interruption of movement, displacement of balance,feeling the gaps for when to explode up openings that arise. Shifting of your centre line to deflect in coming blows, Dragging in a prey with a slight turn. folding elbows then launching a shot from there while choking out their shot, minimizing footwork, and you gain contact reflexes in your forearms. Its fun to disrupt their front foot with your foot too, slight drag or tap as they move etc,toe tread, even sneak your foot down under theirs as it lands so their balance is ruined for a sec, but be hitting them as they adjust dont waste it, :-).