Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather

[TitoFan]

You write well for a new guy. By the way... I really liked your song "Africa" many years ago.



Having said that, I think your logic suffers a little on a few counts. First of all... IMO Pac has nothing, nyet, nada, to prove to Pretty Boy. On the contrary... the ball is firmly in Pretty Boy's court, except that he won't be doing any dribbling any time soon, except in the slammer. Maybe there he'll find a captive audience who will believe his claims to be the world's p4p, although he's done nothing to deserve it in the last few years. He beat a grossly undersized JMM (not everyone can jump several weight classes like Pac has done), and then beat an unexplicably shy and suddenly old-looking Shane Mosley. (Why he didn't capitalize on that huge right that rocked Pretty Boy early on, I'll never know).

Meanwhile, Pac has defied all odds by beating bigger and stronger men. Say what you will about Pac's opponents. But BEFORE the fights, you'd be hard pressed to find fans with conviction who would've predicted the ease with which Pac dispatched those opponents. It's not Pac's fault that Clottey shamefully decided to rob boxing fans of their money by going into a shell and not fighting that night. And it's not Pac's fault that Cotto came in with a TOTALLY wrong gameplan against him, going toe-to-toe and throwing 1 punch for every 5 of Pac's. It's easy to pick fights apart after they're done. It's called "Monday morning quarterbacking".

But back to your main point. Pac needs to do NOTHING to prove he's better than Mayweather. He already has. It's Pretty Boy who needs to do everything in his power to get that fight and shut Pac's fans up. But that's gonna be a bit difficult to do from his jail cell. So all we're left with are theories and conjectures.

[Taeth]

You write well for a new guy. By the way... I really liked your song "Africa" many years ago.



Having said that, I think your logic suffers a little on a few counts. First of all... IMO Pac has nothing, nyet, nada, to prove to Pretty Boy. On the contrary... the ball is firmly in Pretty Boy's court, except that he won't be doing any dribbling any time soon, except in the slammer. Maybe there he'll find a captive audience who will believe his claims to be the world's p4p, although he's done nothing to deserve it in the last few years. He beat a grossly undersized JMM (not everyone can jump several weight classes like Pac has done), and then beat an unexplicably shy and suddenly old-looking Shane Mosley. (Why he didn't capitalize on that huge right that rocked Pretty Boy early on, I'll never know).

Meanwhile, Pac has defied all odds by beating bigger and stronger men. Say what you will about Pac's opponents. But BEFORE the fights, you'd be hard pressed to find fans with conviction who would've predicted the ease with which Pac dispatched those opponents. It's not Pac's fault that Clottey shamefully decided to rob boxing fans of their money by going into a shell and not fighting that night. And it's not Pac's fault that Cotto came in with a TOTALLY wrong gameplan against him, going toe-to-toe and throwing 1 punch for every 5 of Pac's. It's easy to pick fights apart after they're done. It's called "Monday morning quarterbacking".

But back to your main point. Pac needs to do NOTHING to prove he's better than Mayweather. He already has. It's Pretty Boy who needs to do everything in his power to get that fight and shut Pac's fans up. But that's gonna be a bit difficult to do from his jail cell. So all we're left with are theories and conjectures.

How has Manny proved he was better than Mayweather? He hasn't at all. That's why almost everyone who boxes believes Floyd would beat him. Floyd is way more well rounded, and a adapts better during a fight. Don't get it twisted, Marquez looked poor, and Mosley old because Mayweather made them look that way. He picked Marquez apart, and feinted and peppered Mosley into compliance. You will see on May 7, that Mosley will put up a valiant effort against Pacquiao. I don't think he will win, but it will be a lot more competitive than Mayweather-Mosley.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

You write well for a new guy. By the way... I really liked your song "Africa" many years ago.



Having said that, I think your logic suffers a little on a few counts. First of all... IMO Pac has nothing, nyet, nada, to prove to Pretty Boy. On the contrary... the ball is firmly in Pretty Boy's court, except that he won't be doing any dribbling any time soon, except in the slammer. Maybe there he'll find a captive audience who will believe his claims to be the world's p4p, although he's done nothing to deserve it in the last few years. He beat a grossly undersized JMM (not everyone can jump several weight classes like Pac has done), and then beat an unexplicably shy and suddenly old-looking Shane Mosley. (Why he didn't capitalize on that huge right that rocked Pretty Boy early on, I'll never know).

Meanwhile, Pac has defied all odds by beating bigger and stronger men. Say what you will about Pac's opponents. But BEFORE the fights, you'd be hard pressed to find fans with conviction who would've predicted the ease with which Pac dispatched those opponents. It's not Pac's fault that Clottey shamefully decided to rob boxing fans of their money by going into a shell and not fighting that night. And it's not Pac's fault that Cotto came in with a TOTALLY wrong gameplan against him, going toe-to-toe and throwing 1 punch for every 5 of Pac's. It's easy to pick fights apart after they're done. It's called "Monday morning quarterbacking".

But back to your main point. Pac needs to do NOTHING to prove he's better than Mayweather. He already has. It's Pretty Boy who needs to do everything in his power to get that fight and shut Pac's fans up. But that's gonna be a bit difficult to do from his jail cell. So all we're left with are theories and conjectures.

How has Manny proved he was better than Mayweather? He hasn't at all. That's why almost everyone who boxes believes Floyd would beat him. Floyd is way more well rounded, and a adapts better during a fight. Don't get it twisted, Marquez looked poor, and Mosley old because Mayweather made them look that way. He picked Marquez apart, and feinted and peppered Mosley into compliance. You will see on May 7, that Mosley will put up a valiant effort against Pacquiao. I don't think he will win, but it will be a lot more competitive than Mayweather-Mosley.

Nobody can really be sure as to who is better between Pacquiao and Mayweather until they fight in the ring. It may be true that Floyd would beat Manny but what people would remember several years from now is what happened in their last negotiation, that Floyd was the reason that fight did not happen. If all that happened is the first negotiation, Manny would have gotten the blame.

[Gandalf]

You write well for a new guy. By the way... I really liked your song "Africa" many years ago.



Having said that, I think your logic suffers a little on a few counts. First of all... IMO Pac has nothing, nyet, nada, to prove to Pretty Boy. On the contrary... the ball is firmly in Pretty Boy's court, except that he won't be doing any dribbling any time soon, except in the slammer. Maybe there he'll find a captive audience who will believe his claims to be the world's p4p, although he's done nothing to deserve it in the last few years. He beat a grossly undersized JMM (not everyone can jump several weight classes like Pac has done), and then beat an unexplicably shy and suddenly old-looking Shane Mosley. (Why he didn't capitalize on that huge right that rocked Pretty Boy early on, I'll never know).

Meanwhile, Pac has defied all odds by beating bigger and stronger men. Say what you will about Pac's opponents. But BEFORE the fights, you'd be hard pressed to find fans with conviction who would've predicted the ease with which Pac dispatched those opponents. It's not Pac's fault that Clottey shamefully decided to rob boxing fans of their money by going into a shell and not fighting that night. And it's not Pac's fault that Cotto came in with a TOTALLY wrong gameplan against him, going toe-to-toe and throwing 1 punch for every 5 of Pac's. It's easy to pick fights apart after they're done. It's called "Monday morning quarterbacking".

But back to your main point. Pac needs to do NOTHING to prove he's better than Mayweather. He already has. It's Pretty Boy who needs to do everything in his power to get that fight and shut Pac's fans up. But that's gonna be a bit difficult to do from his jail cell. So all we're left with are theories and conjectures.

How has Manny proved he was better than Mayweather? He hasn't at all. That's why almost everyone who boxes believes Floyd would beat him. Floyd is way more well rounded, and a adapts better during a fight. Don't get it twisted, Marquez looked poor, and Mosley old because Mayweather made them look that way. He picked Marquez apart, and feinted and peppered Mosley into compliance. You will see on May 7, that Mosley will put up a valiant effort against Pacquiao. I don't think he will win, but it will be a lot more competitive than Mayweather-Mosley.

Nobody can really be sure as to who is better between Pacquiao and Mayweather until they fight in the ring. It may be true that Floyd would beat Manny but what people would remember several years from now is what happened in their last negotiation, that Floyd was the reason that fight did not happen. If all that happened is the first negotiation, Manny would have gotten the blame.

Not true, people will remember that they were both at fault and the thing that actually stands out more is that one of them refused to do a drugs test. That has hurt Pac more than Floyd. How can you argue against someone looking for comprehensive drug coverage and the other fighter sitting back saying "stop hurting my pride, no fight". That looks far worse. The fight would likely have happened, but Manny couldn't deal with it in the first place. That's what I remember above all else right now.

Manny was the one looking for that fight and he shrugged his shoulder. Floyd was the top dog and to agree would have been the correct way to continue.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Not true, people will remember that they were both at fault and the thing that actually stands out more is that one of them refused to do a drugs test.

You keep on perpetuating this misconception. Pacquiao agrees to the drug test that is already in place, what he did not agree to is the drug test under Mayweather's terms. But Manny had finally agreed to the drug test as per Floyd's terms in the second negotiation and what happened?

That has hurt Pac more than Floyd.

No, it hasn't. The Pacquiao-Clottey fight is considered a success in terms of arena attendance & PPV buys even when Manny was against someone who is not a crowd drawer. So is the Pacquiao-Margarito fight considering that a number of posters here even advocated for a boycott.

How can you argue against someone looking for comprehensive drug coverage and the other fighter sitting back saying "stop hurting my pride, no fight".

This is highly debatable. A number of people had argued in favor of Pacquiao for not agreeing to Mayweather's terms so there is no point in me bringing this up again.

The fight would likely have happened, but Manny couldn't deal with it in the first place. That's what I remember above all else right now.

So, you think it's unreasonable for Manny to refuse the fight in the first negotiation because of terms that is being introduced by Floyd for the first time but it's alright for Floyd to decline the fight in the second negotiation so that he can go on vacation? Wasn't he just on a long vacation before he fought Marquez?

Manny was the one looking for that fight and he shrugged his shoulder. Floyd was the top dog and to agree would have been the correct way to continue.

Manny was the top dog then (and still is now). Didn't Floyd come back from his retirement to reclaim the number 1 spot? And who was on the number 1 spot then? Do you think he came back just to beat up an overweight opponent? Read DaxxKahn's comment above so that you will be enlightened.

[BoxingGorilla]

What Pacquiao should do is take the drug test and prove he is better than Mayweather by actually fighting Mayweather.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

What Pacquiao should do is take the drug test and prove he is better than Mayweather by actually fighting Mayweather.

Pacquiao had already agreed to it.

BBC Sport - Manny Pacquiao agrees to 14-day blood-testing limit

Manny Pacquiao v Floyd Mayweather Jnr bout rekindled as Filipino agrees to drug test - Telegraph

Manny Pacquiao agreed to drug testing all the way to the fight

Pacquiao Agrees to Drug Testing to Fight Mayweather | Testing It Up – Drug & Health Testing News – Test Country Blog

Pacquiao agrees to blood tests up to 14 days before fight, let's see if Mayweather backs out (video) - Dallas martial arts | Examiner.com

Boxing: Pacquiao agrees to blood tests for fight with Mayweather - Others, More Sports - The Independent

Report: Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s Drug-Testing Demands - Manny Pacquiao - NESN.com

Manny Pacquiao agrees to 14-day blood-testing limit | GhanaNewsNow.com

Pacquiao agrees to the Olympic-style random drug test | onFuss.com

Pacquiao agrees on blood test, for Mayweather bout | OFW News On Web

Manny Pacquiao Agrees To 14-Day Blood Testing | MeetThaDealer

How many more links do you need me to post in here?