Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

[ross]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Margarito has an * in his fight against Cotto for most likely loading his gloves

and that logic is ridiculous, Shane Mosley lost to Forrest twice, Mayorga beat Forrest twice, Mosley knocked Mayorga the fuck out

Mosley beat DLH twice (IMO once but well his record says 2 wins), and DLH sparked Mayorga easier and quicker than both Trinidad and Mosley

styles make fights and Mayorga's style (and given the fact that he doesn't load his gloves) is perfect for Cotto

[bzkfn]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

he wont, he has the habit of sticking his tail in his ass afterwards and running for the hills

[ross]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

he wont, he has the habit of sticking his tail in his ass afterwards and running for the hills

Grow up you little prick its a forum You know...your getting upset at a monitor dopey

I dont care, iv already gone against popular opinion that I think Mayorga will win. You can wear my Mike Tyson "sig" with pride if Cotto manages to stay off his knees

[Gandalf]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

Mayorga hasn't fought at 154 since 2008, 3 of his last 4 losses have been by KO, whatever big names he's fought in the last 6 yrs he's lost against (apart from a shot Vargas)

i have no doubt in my mind that Cotto will dominate and stop Mayorga

[Gandalf]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

Mayorga hasn't fought at 154 since 2008, 3 of his last 4 losses have been by KO, whatever big names he's fought in the last 6 yrs he's lost against (apart from a shot Vargas)

i have no doubt in my mind that Cotto will dominate and stop Mayorga

True, and he is extremely inactive too. But Cotto at 154 hasn't really proven anything yet either and he is coming off a long layoff himself.

Maybe Cotto will do what you say, but I think Mayorga is dangerous. Cotto wasn't exactly walking through fighters at 147, so to think he will walk through Mayorga at 154 is reaching.

[TitoFan]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

Cotto's size does represent a minus when you stack up the different factors. I also think Cotto's best weight is 147, given his height and reach. On the other hand, Cotto is 10 times the accomplished fighter Mayorga is. He's a better boxer, goes to the body whereas Mayorga is strictly a head hunter, and has a much better defense (that is... when he goes in with the right gameplan). Plus, having Stewart in his corner should help polish the few remaining glitches.

If I'm objective about it, the only chance I give Mayorga is the proverbial puncher's chance. He's a wild swinger, and can certainly hurt Cotto if he connects with one of his bombs.

However, I've lost all objectiveness about this fight, thanks largely to Ross's anti-Cotto rantings, including the straw that broke the camel's back when he wished that Cotto goes into the fight hampered by his shoulder surgery.

I'm not a Mayorga-hater, but now I'm hoping Cotto punishes him severely before KTFO him. THEN, I want to see Ross in here, manning up to his pre-fight comments. But as El Terrible said... he won't, mainly 'cause he ain't got the intestinal fortitude to admit when he's wrong.

[Gandalf]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

Cotto's size does represent a minus when you stack up the different factors. I also think Cotto's best weight is 147, given his height and reach. On the other hand, Cotto is 10 times the accomplished fighter Mayorga is. He's a better boxer, goes to the body whereas Mayorga is strictly a head hunter, and has a much better defense (that is... when he goes in with the right gameplan). Plus, having Stewart in his corner should help polish the few remaining glitches.

If I'm objective about it, the only chance I give Mayorga is the proverbial puncher's chance. He's a wild swinger, and can certainly hurt Cotto if he connects with one of his bombs.

However, I've lost all objectiveness about this fight, thanks largely to Ross's anti-Cotto rantings, including the straw that broke the camel's back when he wished that Cotto goes into the fight hampered by his shoulder surgery.

I'm not a Mayorga-hater, but now I'm hoping Cotto punishes him severely before KTFO him. THEN, I want to see Ross in here, manning up to his pre-fight comments. But as El Terrible said... he won't, mainly 'cause he ain't got the intestinal fortitude to admit when he's wrong.

Fair points, but I'm not going to get into the mudslinging thing as I don't care for that.

Every good poster should man up after a loss though and that is something I have always done, and believe me, it's happened more than once!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

Cotto's size does represent a minus when you stack up the different factors. I also think Cotto's best weight is 147, given his height and reach. On the other hand, Cotto is 10 times the accomplished fighter Mayorga is. He's a better boxer, goes to the body whereas Mayorga is strictly a head hunter, and has a much better defense (that is... when he goes in with the right gameplan). Plus, having Stewart in his corner should help polish the few remaining glitches.

If I'm objective about it, the only chance I give Mayorga is the proverbial puncher's chance. He's a wild swinger, and can certainly hurt Cotto if he connects with one of his bombs.

However, I've lost all objectiveness about this fight, thanks largely to Ross's anti-Cotto rantings, including the straw that broke the camel's back when he wished that Cotto goes into the fight hampered by his shoulder surgery.

I'm not a Mayorga-hater, but now I'm hoping Cotto punishes him severely before KTFO him. THEN, I want to see Ross in here, manning up to his pre-fight comments. But as El Terrible said... he won't, mainly 'cause he ain't got the intestinal fortitude to admit when he's wrong.

Fair points, but I'm not going to get into the mudslinging thing as I don't care for that.

Every good poster should man up after a loss though and that is something I have always done, and believe me, it's happened more than once!

hell i've done it everytime Pacquiao beat my pick lol

i just find it ridiculous that a guy who hasn't seen basically ANY of Cotto's fights speaks as if he has him completely figured out

like i said IMO Cotto isn't anywhere as finished as some think, and with Steward in his corner he's going to surprise quite a few people this year

[Gandalf]

Thats not why I think Mayorga has a good chance.

Go on boxrec and look at his schedule of fights. Since Trinidad its been once a year, his last fight was the first in over 2. Even the Trinidad fight he was out 6 months before. I know alot of other fighters have these absenses and still do well but they have a bit more love for the sport than Ricardo does. He wants money which is why he doesnt mind taking these big fights when he knows hes not going to be ready.

I think if hed have fought only 2 or 3 months before the Trinidad fight or the fight had been at light middle that Ricardo would have won. He was doing well and hurting Trinidad until he ran out of steam in the 4th and just allowed Trinidad to work on him. Felix couldnt dent his chin still, it was a body shot. ricardo needs to be active and fighting at a decent weight to force him to train. Hes not technically gifted but is tough and strong. When Mosley fought him he said that Oscar warned him that Mayorga is "very heavy handed".

I just think that these 9 rounds hes just got done will do his chances the world of good. He didnt have a lot of notice for the fight but fought a decent pace for 9 rounds and still had the power to wobble and drop Walker in the 9th and Walker is a solid middle that Andy Lee couldnt drop in Walkers previous fight.

As long as Ricardo trains and trains hard I think he could put Cotto in to his shell. Especially if he starts fast and lands something decent early. Iv always thought Ricardo would beat Cotto. Maybe hes too old now and the legs have slowed but the Mayroga that beat Forrest in those fights would ruin Cotto and would have given Mayweather and Pacquiao some exciting fights too.

This is my first post in this topic. This is why I think Mayorga wins.

Also. Who gave Mosley a harder fight, Margarito or Mayorga? and who battered Cotto? If Margarito can do that, a slow not very powerfull fighter, then Mayorga certainly has a chance!

Well if you gone on the logic of who gave Mosley a harder fight, Cotto fucking beat him, and Mayorga got sparked by him. So really, that is stupid logic.

Cotto has fought a few big punching wild swingers and come out on top. De La Hoya picked his shots against Mayorga and absolutely beat the crap out of him. Cotto is a skilled, methodical nasty bastard inside a boxing ring. He will pick Mayorga off all night and won't hear the final bell.

Like Titofan said, make sure you come in here after the fight. I'll sig bet with you if you're so damn sure. Put your money where your mouth is.

To be fair, both men gave Mosley a hard nights work and Mosley was fighting at different weights. In this fight Cotto will be in Mayorga's ballpark and that will have an impact. Cotto has had one fight at 154 and that was against a JMW version of Paulie Malignaggi. I also think Mosley went into the Cotto fight respecting Cotto a little too much early on.

I'm not as certain as Ross as I sit on the fence a lot more these days, but Mayorga anywhere near his best is likely a tough nights work for Cotto. As much as I dislike DLH, I don't think Cotto is on the same level as DLH was when DLH toyed with Mayorga. Cotto has a lot of question marks over him and that Pac fight must have taken a lot too.

Cotto should really be at 147, he is such a small JMW. Mayorga will balloon above him and will likely try and rough him up and it isn't as though Cotto doesn't cut these days.

Cotto's size does represent a minus when you stack up the different factors. I also think Cotto's best weight is 147, given his height and reach. On the other hand, Cotto is 10 times the accomplished fighter Mayorga is. He's a better boxer, goes to the body whereas Mayorga is strictly a head hunter, and has a much better defense (that is... when he goes in with the right gameplan). Plus, having Stewart in his corner should help polish the few remaining glitches.

If I'm objective about it, the only chance I give Mayorga is the proverbial puncher's chance. He's a wild swinger, and can certainly hurt Cotto if he connects with one of his bombs.

However, I've lost all objectiveness about this fight, thanks largely to Ross's anti-Cotto rantings, including the straw that broke the camel's back when he wished that Cotto goes into the fight hampered by his shoulder surgery.

I'm not a Mayorga-hater, but now I'm hoping Cotto punishes him severely before KTFO him. THEN, I want to see Ross in here, manning up to his pre-fight comments. But as El Terrible said... he won't, mainly 'cause he ain't got the intestinal fortitude to admit when he's wrong.

Fair points, but I'm not going to get into the mudslinging thing as I don't care for that.

Every good poster should man up after a loss though and that is something I have always done, and believe me, it's happened more than once!

hell i've done it everytime Pacquiao beat my pick lol

i just find it ridiculous that a guy who hasn't seen basically ANY of Cotto's fights speaks as if he has him completely figured out

like i said IMO Cotto isn't anywhere as finished as some think, and with Steward in his corner he's going to surprise quite a few people this year

I haven't read through this thread completely, but are you suggesting that I haven't seen all of Cotto's recent fights? I've seen all of them, like I watch every other fighter. Surely that's to Ross, right?

I really don't think Steward is the difference though. He really does add only a few things to a fighter and the jab is the main thing. And at 154 agaisnt Mayorga, that isn't the main punch. Still, I am curious. Mayorga is a weird kind of customer, I wouldn't rule him out.