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    Default Re: Best chins of our era thoughts on the list?

    Always love these. Getting dropped and staying on the mat are different things. Chin durability should be just going down, getting buzzed in the first place...far more factors can come in when a guy gets "ko'd".

    Ray "I actually took a knee vs Holyfield" Mercer. Head of granite.

    Chavez senior. Dropped vs Randall...wobbled in 2nd fight but what else for a guy who put himself in the fire?

    Juan Laporte was walking titanium. Head was g.o.a.t

    Not so sure about Toney. Good head yeh but his defense was sensational. Was buzzed vs Littles, McCallum, Jones jr. Peter dropped him but suppose thats nit picking. Oscar likewise. Got dropped early on, Ike, and belly caved vs Hopkins. Both sturdy no doubt.

    Adamek is a tuff SOB but has been shaken and stirred on occasion himself. Banks, Cunningham and an AARP collecting Grant. Fatigue a factor but rocked is rocked.

    Just noticed it indicated 'our era' aww well Angulo? Williams ? Joseph Agbeko? Shite I may hate myself for this but Rocky Juarez

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    Default Re: Best chins of our era thoughts on the list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Always love these. Getting dropped and staying on the mat are different things. Chin durability should be just going down, getting buzzed in the first place...far more factors can come in when a guy gets "ko'd".

    Ray "I actually took a knee vs Holyfield" Mercer. Head of granite.

    Chavez senior. Dropped vs Randall...wobbled in 2nd fight but what else for a guy who put himself in the fire?

    Juan Laporte was walking titanium. Head was g.o.a.t

    Not so sure about Toney. Good head yeh but his defense was sensational. Was buzzed vs Littles, McCallum, Jones jr. Peter dropped him but suppose thats nit picking. Oscar likewise. Got dropped early on, Ike, and belly caved vs Hopkins. Both sturdy no doubt.

    Adamek is a tuff SOB but has been shaken and stirred on occasion himself. Banks, Cunningham and an AARP collecting Grant. Fatigue a factor but rocked is rocked.

    Just noticed it indicated 'our era' aww well Angulo? Williams ? Joseph Agbeko? Shite I may hate myself for this but Rocky Juarez
    agree with you, hell i'd say even Malignaggi's name can be thrown in there, when has he seriously been hurt and dropped hard? i mean yea Cotto, Hatton, and Khan rattled him, but the guy can take crazy amounts of punishment

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    Default Re: Best chins of our era thoughts on the list?

    If Chuvalo counts, I'm gonna throw Matthew Saad Mohammed out there.

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    I think you should count guys thet get buzzed and drop but get back up, or is that considered fortitude? Sometimes you just get hit where you can do nothing but drop, its when your down with your brain scrambled and get back up and survive the round. Thats something alot of fightyers dont have.

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    Paulie Malinaggi

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    Default Re: Best chins of our era thoughts on the list?

    I'm going to have to add JMM. Dropped 4 times by Pac, dropped by Mayweather, dropped by Katsidis. Amazingly he never seems fazed after getting dropped. He's been in plenty of other wars too where he probably should have been dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMASUX View Post
    I'm going to have to add JMM. Dropped 4 times by Pac, dropped by Mayweather, dropped by Katsidis. Amazingly he never seems fazed after getting dropped. He's been in plenty of other wars too where he probably should have been dropped.
    Good call, he gets dropped but is always back up and adjusts very well.

    I also go with Toney, he was such a small heavyweight. Well, I mean small in terms of height and reach, the belly kind of got out there towards the end. But he could eat a punch, Peter only put him down because Toney got so fat he didn't know how to balance himself on two legs anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Always love these. Getting dropped and staying on the mat are different things. Chin durability should be just going down, getting buzzed in the first place...far more factors can come in when a guy gets "ko'd".

    Ray "I actually took a knee vs Holyfield" Mercer. Head of granite.

    Chavez senior. Dropped vs Randall...wobbled in 2nd fight but what else for a guy who put himself in the fire?

    Juan Laporte was walking titanium. Head was g.o.a.t

    Not so sure about Toney. Good head yeh but his defense was sensational. Was buzzed vs Littles, McCallum, Jones jr. Peter dropped him but suppose thats nit picking. Oscar likewise. Got dropped early on, Ike, and belly caved vs Hopkins. Both sturdy no doubt.

    Adamek is a tuff SOB but has been shaken and stirred on occasion himself. Banks, Cunningham and an AARP collecting Grant. Fatigue a factor but rocked is rocked.

    Just noticed it indicated 'our era' aww well Angulo? Williams ? Joseph Agbeko? Shite I may hate myself for this but Rocky Juarez

    Walking a fine line on some no? Though with a list like this it is hard to put guys on who have been down but gotten back up to fight on several occassions when there are guys out there who have never been down like Vitali who has never been down or guys like Shane who has only been down once and these guys have been fighting at the elite level for so long still managing to stay down.....I do though personally try to think at what point the knockdowns happened...Toney at HW against a monstor puncher like Peter when Toney was not a treu HW just a fat ass I really don't hold it against him....The body shots like the one DLH suffered I don't hold against him because I don't care how good your chin is you get a liver shot clean on and you are going down.....I love how you updated Williams from your list ha ha

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    Default Re: Best chins of our era thoughts on the list?

    I don't think you can really count guys with great recovery powers or big hearts etc as would be the case with JMM and Calzaghe. Sure they have/had very good chins, but more so elite boxing skills which make it very hard to land(or follow up with) the type of shots that truly finish guys off, at least with any consistensy. Mayorga absolutely had one of the best chins of our era for the lower weights, the problem is that he relied on it and it got dented. If Calzaghe or Marquez fought like Mayorga did for a while no doubt they would have easily been knocked out, as is the case with the vast majority of fighters of any calibre. Watch him fight Vernon Forrest again, or Trinidad(both VERY capable of knocking guys cold). I can't really think of any other fighter who could actually use their chin as a weapon like that with any success. Mosley is about as freakishly tough as they come as well. Only Forrest ever actually hurt him and I suspect the headbutt is what actually did it for the most part. I can't really argue with the list other than adding Mayorga I guess.

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    Marcus Villasana (spelling) took bombs from Hodgkinson and just kept coming.
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    Default Re: Best chins of our era thoughts on the list?

    Shane Mosley, look at the shots he took off Mayweather which wobbled him, and I'm sure would have dropped damn near anyone. Even though he was wobbled badly a few times his chin had enough to take particularly as he got caught clean so many times.

    James Toney, although part of this with him was his defensive ability to roll off the shot, which I think takes a lot of the credit.

    Andrade, Margarito & Mayorga. All three of these guys are arguably the most impressive as they never roll off the shot they walk onto it and keep walking. That to me is the epitome of a great chin.

    I also think that if people are throwing JMM & Calzaghe out there, then you've got to say Pacquiao & Mayweather. I think Manny has an extremely underrated chin, especially when you look at how he stayed up from some of the shots he took from JMM, while Mayweather has never really been dropped, as the Hernandez KD wasn't a KD, while the Judah one which should have counted wasn't really a drop. I think a lot of that is defensive ability, but when he's taken big shots he's always come back pretty quickly. Also Manny has taken hard shots off some serious guys & not looked like dropping.

    Abraham has a pretty good chin when you look at some of the shots he took off Miranda & Froch.

    For me in a lot of ways the best has to be Glen Johnson. Very rarely seriously hurt, but he probably edges it for me in totality, because he's never been down, I've seen him take big shots, recover & come back or sometimes act like nothing has happened. He does all of this largely on the front foot which impresses me that bit more.

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